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There are 3 motion sensor items in ISY, it added all 3 when I paired it.

Just as a summary for anyone else in the future going through this thread, after I used the methods others told me, I had to disable/re-enable my sensor program before it started picking up the motion sensor status changes. Once that happened everything started working great.

Ok awesome! Apparently it actually is working now! Just my stupid INSTEON Hub app wasn't updating the status correctly. (I'm on a long boring work conference call at the moment so I can't physically see the lights, was just using the hub app as a second independent source to verify status.) Have the motion sensor sitting here on my desk with me. I try to maximize my wasted time on conference calls. Anyhow, THANK YOU EVERYONE for all the help! I'll test more for real and hopefully everything really is working as I believe it is. Thanks!

Ok, I tried disabling the 'sensor' program and then re-enabled it. The motion sensor triggered and the 'last run time' updated SO yeah, progress I think . The 'then' must have worked because the 'master bathroom auto lights' program shows an updated 'last run time' state as well, but the lights didn't change state this time. Sadly though the lights didn't trigger. That said, I feel like I am getting closer

1 - I've proven the MS is linked to the ISY. I've done so a few ways. One, when I query options I am able to get them from the MS, and when the MS was set to send 'off' commands the ISY would show state changes. 2 - The MS is not triggering the program. This is where the problem lies. I've proven this as the 'last run time' never updates when triggering motion on either program. 3 - The program is able to operate the lights when I right click and do 'run then'. Lights turn on as they should.

Hi, the admin console I don't believe had timed out. I closed it and re-opened it and everything is the same. I've ran the 'run then' test and that works fine. It's only the 'if' part of the MS triggering the first program that isn't happened. Not sure why it wouldn't be. The red light blinks on the motion sensor and when I had it set to send 'off' commands that was happening, so I'm sure the motion sensor is communicating fine.

Sorry for my ignorance, where would I add the wait and for how long? (Also what purpose does the 'wait' serve?)

Ok, good to know. Problem is, the 'if' is never triggering still. I tested running the 'then' and that all executes perfectly, but the motion sensor is never triggering the 'if' section of the command. Not sure what I am doing wrong here. Also, is it just me or is a lot of this not logical at all. Granted, I haven't done programming in 10 years but this doesn't not seem to follow a logical flow. Without you guys telling me this stuff, how in the world would I ever guess it?

Ok, so any idea why the below program is not executing? According to the 'summary' page, it's never executing; Master Bathroom Sensor Trigger - [iD 0006][Parent 0001] If Control 'Insteon / Master Bedroom / Master Bathroom Motion Sensor' is switched On Then Run Program 'Master Bathroom Auto Lights' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Ok I set the option back to 'on only mode' again. That is what you meant correct? How do I disable the 'On' as well?

Ok, I have the trigger sensor programmed, and I can see the status of the motion sensor change in the ISY, but the program never executes per the 'summary' tab isn't showing an updated execution time. Master Bathroom Sensor Trigger - [iD 0006][Parent 0001] If Control 'Insteon / Master Bedroom / Master Bathroom Motion Sensor' is switched On Then Run Program 'Master Bathroom Auto Lights' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

In your program you posted you have a 'wait x minutes then off again'. That is not a requirement for this to work is it? Because I don't want them to ever turn off automatically, I want you to manually have to turn them off.

Also, since this unit isn't directly controlling any switches I've changed it back to sending an 'off' command after timeout, and now the ISY does show an 'off' status. That said, program still doesn't run Ok thanks Larry, I will try that right now and post back.

? Sorry, not sure I understand. Are you saying that my 'and' requirements of the switches be set to 'off' will prevent the program from running because in the 'then' I am sending a '33% on' command to them? If that was the case, wouldn't I see one of them turn on to 33% before failing? Also, if the lights are on, then I do want the program to not execute. (As in my wife walked in, the lights turned on to 33%, but she increases their brightness to 100%, I don't want the program executing again and setting them back to 33%, which was the program I ran into initially.)

Except I only want the lights to be at 33%, and I don't want it to ever turn them off, and I don't want it to reset the lights to 33% if they are already set to a different level Thus the other items in my program.

Also Larry, you are correct, in the ISY the motion sensor always shows a state of 'on', even past the timeout period. Which is really odd.

Master Bathroom Auto Lights - [iD 0006][Parent 0001] If Status 'Insteon / Master Bedroom / Master Bathroom Motion Sensor' is On And Status 'Insteon / Master Bedroom / Master Bathroom Vanity' is Off And Status 'Insteon / Master Bedroom / Master Bathtub' is Off Then Set 'Insteon / Master Bedroom / Master Bathtub' 33% Set 'Insteon / Master Bedroom / Master Bathroom Vanity' 33% Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Larry, this is what it looks like when modified to your spec; Master Bathroom Auto Lights - [iD 0006][Parent 0001] If Control 'Insteon / Master Bedroom / Master Bathroom Motion Sensor' is switched On And Status 'Insteon / Master Bedroom / Master Bathroom Vanity' is Off And Status 'Insteon / Master Bedroom / Master Bathtub' is Off Then Set 'Insteon / Master Bedroom / Master Bathtub' 33% Set 'Insteon / Master Bedroom / Master Bathroom Vanity' 33% Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Thank you larryllix for the response. I've tried changing to the method you specified and it still doesn't work. That said, I don't have this motion sensor sending an 'off' command, I have it set to only turn on devices. That also said, I don't have it controlling any devices, at least not directly, so should I change that to send an 'off' command after the timer is done?

Ok, so one more question. I have my motion sensor added to the ISY, but the options I have with it are 'status is (responding/on/off)'. I would assume when it gets 'triggered' the status would be 'on'? right? That doesn't work, nor does 'responding' to trigger the rule. If I can just figure out how to get the program to respond to the motion sensor getting tripped then I think we've got this.

Hi Stusviews, thank you for the suggestion but I have a question. The motion sensor itself is acting as a controller and sending the 'on at 33%' command when it senses motion. Even if I disable an equivalent program on the ISY, wouldn't the motion itself send those commands? Should I disable the motion as a controller period, and then do what you suggested?

So, I have a motion sensor in our master bathroom set that when it senses motion it sets all the lights in the master bathroom to 33%, which is perfect for at night when you need to use the bathroom. The problem is, during the day my wife will walk in, the lights turn on, but she will then set the lights to 100% while doing makeup, things like this. When the motion sensor sees her, it resets the lights back down to 33%. Obviously she does not like this. Currenly my work around is to set the motion sensor to do nothing until 30 minutes after it's last activation. That said, that sucks ​Basically what I would like to happen is that if the lights are already on, then the motion sensor does nothing, it only does something when the lights are off. (And I'm not referring to just light in the room as during the day I would still like them to activate to 33%.) Is there a way I can correct this motion sensor default behavior with the ISY? Motion sensor - Item# 2842-222 ISY 994i ZW with latest firmware All lights controlled by INSTEON 2477D dimmer switches Thanks!