Having trouble linking an appliance linc log included

[kevman]

TRying to and an appliance linc to my ISY and it doesn't seem to do anything when I go to link , here is the log

 

 

Fri 03/29/2013 04:24:27 PM : [VAR 2 14 ] -1

 

Fri 03/29/2013 04:24:30 PM : Start Insteon Device Linking Mode

 

Fri 03/29/2013 04:24:30 PM : [LNK-BGN ] 02 64 01 00 06

 

Fri 03/29/2013 04:24:50 PM : Stop Insteon Device Linking Mode, Final processing to follow

 

Fri 03/29/2013 04:24:50 PM : ---- Start: Generate Scenes from links ----

 

Fri 03/29/2013 04:24:50 PM : [LNK-END ] 02 65 06 : : Unexpected, ignored (65)

 

Fri 03/29/2013 04:24:50 PM : ---- End: Generate Scenes from links ----

 

Fri 03/29/2013 04:24:57 PM : [VAR 2 14 ] 1

[Xathros]

Can you do that again with the event viewer at level 3?

 

-Xathros

[kevman]

that actually was set to 3. In any case it seems to be a problem with the outlet, or that particular circuit I was trying to use it on. Its in my master bedroom which does have a switch linc in there as well, but for some reason the appliance linc does not work when plugged into the outlets there. could this be impacted by the location of the PLM in relation to the outlet I am trying to control? THe PLM is way downstairs in the basement. The appliance linc works on some outlets in the room, but not the very far ones for my lamp.

[Brian H]

You used the Start Linking method to add the Appliancelinc and not the New Insteon Device method of Link Management?

 

Do you have any coupling between the phases?

Like Access Points or Dual Band Devices that pass the built in communications tests?

 

The PLM is it on the same circuit as the computer, a filtered surge strip or an UPS?

Do you know if the bedroom has an Arc Fault Breaker feeding it?

[kevman]

You used the Start Linking method to add the Appliancelinc and not the New Insteon Device method of Link Management?

 

Do you have any coupling between the phases?

Like Access Points or Dual Band Devices that pass the built in communications tests?

 

The PLM is it on the same circuit as the computer, a filtered surge strip or an UPS?

Do you know if the bedroom has an Arc Fault Breaker feeding it?

 

 

Tried both methods, didn't work on the non-working outlet/circuit

 

Don't have a phase coupler, but the same room in which I am trying to use this module there is a switch Linc that is dual band. Shouldnt that be able to relay the communication to this device?

 

The PLM is on its own outlet in the basement that has nothing on it at the moment. I believe the bedroom does have an Arc Fault Breaker

[LeeG]

Lighting circuits that the SwitchLinc is powered from are often on different circuit breakers then outlets in the same room. Some rooms may have outlets on more than one circuit which sounds like your case where some outlets in the same room work and some do not. The ApplianceLinc is powerline only so Dual Band devices may not have the expected benefit particularly if the SwitchLinc is on a different circuit.

 

Get a pair of Access Points to couple the two 120v legs.

[kevman]

Thanks for the info I have confirmed that the outlets are in a different circuit then the switchlinc one. Do the access points connect into the circuit I am trying to control? Would moving the PLM to a different outlet more central outlet in the house make a difference?

[LeeG]

Placing the PLM near the central panel is usually a good place.

 

It is necessary to couple the two 120v legs. Otherwise signals have to travel out to the utility transformer and back to get to the opposite 120v leg. For most homes this makes it impossible for signals to get to the opposite 120v leg reliably.

 

For coupling purposes I would place the Access Points near the central power panel. The advantage of Access Points over the passive coupler is signals are rebroadcast on the opposite 120v leg at full amplitude. With a passive coupler the signal is coupled to the other 120v leg at what is likely a lower amplitude because the signal has traveled some distance to get to the passive coupler.

 

Placing the Access Points near the central power panel is not the best location for them to send/receive signals from RF devices such as Motion Sensors, RemoteLincs2, etc that are positioned at the other end of the house. It may require additional Dual Band devices at other locations in the house to cover RF only devices. This is becoming less of an issue with so many Insteon devices being Dual Band. However, wired Dual Band devices stuck inside a junction box generally do not have the range of an Access Point. Placed inside a metal junction box greatly reduces the RF coverage.