Program problem

[tome]

I have some lights in an entry courtyard that are tied to two siwtchlincs and a motion sensor. Starting at dusk I want them to come on if motion is sensed, and then go off 5 minutes after motion stops. If someone turns on one of the switchlincs by hand then the lights should come on and stay on regardless of motion. I have the programs below set up and it works except for one thing. If someone turns on the switch the lights will shut themselves off anyway. What am I missing?

 

I have a folder called Entry Light Control with the following programs in it:

 

DisableAutomaticControl

If
       Control 'EntryLightsEast' is switched On
    Or Control 'EntryLightsWest' is switched On

Then
       Disable Program 'EntryLightsOff'

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

EnableAutomaticControl

If
       Control 'EntryLightsEast' is switched Off
    Or Control 'EntryLightsWest' is switched Off

Then
       Enable Program 'EntryLightsOff'

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

EntryLightControlStatus

If
       From    Sunrise
       To      Sunset  (same day)
   And (
            Status  'EntryLightsEast' is 100%
         Or Status  'EntryLightsWest' is 100%
       )

Then
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

EntryLightsOff

If
       Program 'EntryOccupied' is False
   And Program 'Evening' is True

Then
       Set Scene 'FrontPorchControl' Off

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

EntryLightsOn

If
       Program 'EntryOccupied' is True
   And Program 'Evening' is True

Then
       Set Scene 'FrontPorchControl' 100%

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

EntryMotion

If
       Status  'MotionSensor2-Sensor' is On

Then
       Run Program 'EntryLightsOn' (If)

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

EntryOccupied

If
       Program 'EntryMotion' is True
    Or From    Last Run Time for 'EntryMotion'
       For      5 minutes 

Then
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Else
       Run Program 'EntryLightsOff' (If)

[oberkc]

I have the programs below set up and it works except for one thing. If someone turns on the switch the lights will shut themselves off anyway. What am I missing?

 

I see references to programs not listed (evening, for example) and am not confident that I follow the entire logic of your approach. I wonder, however, are you asking about when somebody turns on on the light swithces after they are already on from motion, or before?

[oberkc]

Keep in mind that if one disables a program after it is running, it will continue to run.

 

Also keep in mind that if a program (entry occupied, for example) calls another program (entrylightsoff, for example), the called program will run, even if disabled.

[tome]

I see references to programs not listed (evening, for example) and am not confident that I follow the entire logic of your approach. I wonder, however, are you asking about when somebody turns on on the light swithces after they are already on from motion, or before?

 

Thanks for the reply. Evening is pasted below, simply sunset to sunrise. I want it to override the programs that turn the lights off if someone manually turns on a switch regardless of previous state.

1) During evening hours use motion sensor to turn lights on on motion and off after 5 minutes of no motion.

2) If someone turns on switch, override turning the lights off and turn/leave lights on.

 

If there is an easier/better way to set up the logic I am all for it...

 

Keep in mind that if one disables a program after it is running, it will continue to run.

Maybe this is why it keeps turning off lights, but I am not sure because last night it seemed like no matter how many times we turned on the switch it would keep shutting them off.

 

Evening:

If
       From    Sunset 
       To      Sunrise (next day)

Then
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

[oberkc]

Which lights are exhibing the problem...frontporchscene, or entrylights?

[oberkc]

What keeps the program 'entryoccupied' from not running? It appears that this program would cause some lights to turn off, but I see nothing that disables this program when the switches are manually activated?

[tome]

Which lights are exhibing the problem...frontporchscene, or entrylights?

 

 

There is no frontporchscene, but FrontPorchControl is just the switchlincs and keypad. EntryLightsEast and EntryLightsWest are names for the switchlincs themselves.

 

FrontPorchControl:

EntryLightsEast

EntryLightsWest

KitchenKeypad.B

 

What keeps the program 'entryoccupied' from not running? It appears that this program would cause some lights to turn off, but I see nothing that disables this program when the switches are manually activated?

 

Hmm, perhaps that is my problem!? I just need to disable that as well in the DisableAutomaticControl program.....Will give it a try tonight.

 

Tom

[tome]

I believe that is working. Thanks very much, oberkc!

Tom

[oberkc]

I am glad it is working.

 

One thing I thought I would mention was that the ISY includes a few features that could have helped. For example, the program status page may have given some clues. When you see lights going off when you don't expect it, check the program status page for any program that exectuded at that time. Or check the event log for commands at the lights-off time. Perhaps one of these indications, plus you knowledge of your programs, can assist in the future if you run into these types of problems again.