steveaz Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I have installed a new isy 994i. I have followed instructions, but new insteon control modules (for instance 2634-222)will not link up. Link to comment
LeeG Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Try plugging the Dual Band ApplianceLinc into the same outlet as the PLM. What are the symptoms? Link to comment
steveaz Posted January 9, 2014 Author Share Posted January 9, 2014 plugging a unit in the same outlet caused it to start linking! Why? thank you. Link to comment
LeeG Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 A functioning Insteon Mesh Network is often not as easy as plugging a device in at the desired location. A pair of Access Points to couple the two 120v legs, isolating noise/attenuation sources at the PLM location are a few items that have to happen. Plugging the ApplianceLinc into the PLM location avoids the need for the above. Of course it is not a solution but does verify the PLM and ApplianceLinc function together. Now the other requirements can be implemented to get started on creating a good Insteon network. Link to comment
steveaz Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 adding the device next to plm allowed me to sync however some insteon devices operate intermittently. I have a phase coupler installed for my old X10 system where separate phases was a big problem. Can this coupler be causing the intermittent instenon operation? Should I remove it? Link to comment
Brian H Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Is it a passive type X10 coupler or a repeater type. Where it resends the X10 signal? Passive ones are OK. Repeater couplers could mess up Insteon signals. If it reads the last part of the Insteon message as an X10 one. Link to comment
steveaz Posted January 12, 2014 Author Share Posted January 12, 2014 it was an X10 coupler/repeater. It has been removed. I am still getting intermittent operation. For instance, I have a 2334 8 button keypad hooked up on one side of the house which works OK. I have installed another 2334 on the other side of the house and it won't link. the led blinks green, but does not sync and finally it turns red. There are two switches on that side of the house that do work. Thanks Link to comment
oberkc Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 This tends to suggest to me that the old passive coupler was not necessarily useful for insteon. I believe you need to find a way to communicate between the legs of your electrical system. I also believe two properly-placed access points are the best way to do this. Link to comment
Brian H Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 The X10 Coupler/Repeater would do nothing for Insteon power line signals. As mentioned. You may need some phase coupling between the phases of your home or you have some noise or signal absorbing devices on your power lines. Try running the built in communications tests with any Dual band Modules you have and verify they are communicating and at least one is on each phase. Access Points are also a good module to use. You can pick where to connect them and not have to rely on where a dual band is installed. Link to comment
steveaz Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 you mention two properly placed access points to couple the phases. What is an access point and what is its part number? Do you have a suggestion as to proper placement for them? Link to comment
oberkc Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Access points are insteon devices available from smarthome. They are relatively easy to find with your favorite search engine. Or you can go to smarthome and search for "access point". The part number is 2443. The web page is: http://www.smarthome.com/2443/Access-Po ... and/p.aspx By "properly placed", I mean in accordance with the manual for the access points. The purpose of the access points are more than one, but I suggest them as a means to provide communication between the legs of your electrical system. Link to comment
steveaz Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 I will give these access points a try. We do have 3 phase power, so it may be a challenge. I'll let you know how it turns out. thanks, Link to comment
Brian H Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Three phase power. You have to have at least one Access Point or Dual Band Device on each phase and verified communicating. To have three phase work. http://www.smarthome.com/pr12-02.html Link to comment
oberkc Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Oooh! Three-phase power concerns me. There is a recent thread somewhere talking about whether the RF relies on the voltage sine wave crossing points as a reference. If so, I cannot help but wonder if access points are effective on phases other than 180 degrees apart. I am unsure if this was resolved, but I think I would seek smarthome advice on this. Link to comment
Brian H Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 In the the Press Release from Smartlabs. They indicated three phase was now officially supported. I believe the RF from the other Access Points is resynchronized to the Zero Crossing before being sent on the phase the Access Point is connected to. Link to comment
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