wong_insteon Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Hi guys, I have just bought some INSTEON's devices for test, recently.. Got encountered some problem, not yet cleared, about few days already.. Hope you guys can help.. - Is the INSTEON's ApplianceLinc V2 #2456S3 have a valid INSTEON ID ( XX : XX : XX) ?? - I'm trying to link this On/Off appliance module with my PowerLinc Modem, 2413U, with the home automation software, HL INSTEON v2.10.25. But not able to get this appliance's Insteon ID. So I couldn't on off this module through the software.. ps: attached with the photos of the INSTEON's ApplianceLinc V2 #2456S3 and also INSTEON PowerLinc Modem, 2413U. http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg5 ... _front.jpg http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg5 ... 3_back.jpg http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg5 ... _front.jpg http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg5 ... U_back.jpg Thank you of your help, -- wong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Yes it should have a six digit ID sticker on it. It looks like yours has fallen off. Most of my old 2456S3 v1.3 ApplianceLincs have also lost there stickers. Most likely the glue on them has failed. Your 2456S3 v1.3 ApplianceLincs are fairly old. Looks like week 35 of 2006. Mine are also in that date range. I just tried my test Houselinc program with a spare 2456S3 v1.3 ApplianceLinc and a 2413S PLM. The set button method did find and add it to the HouseLinc program. If yours is not finding it with the Set Button method. You may have a communications problem. Maybe try the 2456S3 in a different location. Is your 2413U PLM in the outlet, surge strip or UPS power the computing equipment is on? Those types of devices can cause communications issues for the PLM if they are on the same circuit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 If you need the full users manual for the 2456S3 ApplianceLinc. It is for the later 4.? modules but mostly correct for the older 1.? models http://www.insteon.com/pdf/2456S.pdf The information on page 7 on Local Control is not accurate for the v1.3 2456S3 modules. It defaulted to Local Control On and was tied to adding a X10 Primary Address with an On or Off command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong_insteon Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 Hi Brian H, Many thanks of your kind reply! After I changed to another location, I still not able to link my ApplianceLinc V2 #2456S3.. I think it might be due to I use a transformer, convert the VAC 220 to VAC 110.. So it might affect the INSTEON's signal.. I will figure out later.. Do you know what's the difference of PowerLinc Controller (PLC) and PowerLinc Modem (PLM). -- wong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Good chance it is the transformer blocking the power line signals. One other important issue. If you countries power is 50 cycles and not 60 cycles. The 2456S3 will not work even if you step the power down from 220 to 120 volts. The 2456S3 uses the power line frequency for signal timing. The 50 cycles will cause it to be timed completely wrong. The 2413 series PLMs are also strictly 120 volt 60 cycle devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Differences between the 2414 series PLC and the 2412 & 2413 PLMs is on a table for the 2413S sales page. Near the bottom. http://www.smarthome.com/2413S/PowerLin ... and/p.aspx The 2414 series PLC is not able to correctly do Insteon Extended Messaging and I would avoid it at all costs. For present needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong_insteon Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Hi Brian, Oh.. Just realized my country's AC frequency is 50Hz.. No wonder it can't work. Thank for you let me know that.. Luckily I able to use my PLM 2413U to control a INSTEON bulb, although It's not that stable. I will find UK's standard to test it out. But I have search the PowerLinc Modem, currently the latest one are 2413U and 2413S. Both of this just support 120VAC with 60Hz only. If I want to develop system with INSTEON's devices and control through PC base, is that got other alternative or not? Thank you of your reply again... -- wong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 You may want to check out the International Products page for some ideas. http://www.insteon.com/global-products.html Yes we have been asking for International versions of the PLM but so far it has shown no results. The HUB can be used on 50 or 60 cycles and is one of the modules that can be bought for different regions of the world. One thing is the RF frequency in other countries is different due to regulations. So using an RF US device and a UK RF device would not work. Using all the same regions modules would be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong_insteon Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 Hi Brian, I think I will order this converter first, Voltage & Frequency Converter, http://www.ebay.com/itm/50-60-Hz-hertz- ... 0490389172 then continue to try whether can work or not first.. If ok already then will buy a large watt support of Voltage & Frequency Converter. Thank you of your kind reply.. -- wong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong_insteon Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 Hi Brian, I got another one question still not 100% clear. Not sure you know the detail specification or not.. I have put a link a below.. http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg5 ... aphics.jpg I understand that the frequency of my power source here is 50 Hz.. However if I used whole the devices / appliances at here one are Dual-band, then even though the power line signal timing is completely wrong (that's is why 2456S3 can't work), the RF band will work. Isn't it? -- wong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 The power line signals from the PLM will definitely not get through the converter in your link. So RF maybe the only signal path. Depending on the exact frequency and waveform on the 120 volt outlet. It may not even work if the signal is not a good sine wave or 60 cycles. Remember the 2456S3 is strictly power line signals. I see you posted while I was also posting. I will give the diagram you posted a look and reply again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 The 2413U PLM is 120 volts 60 cycles only. The 2457D2 LampLinc is 120 volts 60 cycles only. The 2635-222 On/Off Module is 120 volts 50/60 cycles. The 2672-222 LED Bulb is 120 volts 60 cycles only. In your diagram only the 2635-222 can be run on the step down transformer at 50 cycles. Modules made for 60 cycles only. May have power supply issues on 50 cycles. If you decide to try a converter. Make sure it has enough power to run the modules correctly and has a clean enough output to not effect the modules. Some may have a modified sine wave that may not work correctly and not a pure sine wave that should work. Also RF communications maybe limited distance wise. The US RF frequency may not be legal in your country and may interfere with some other RF service. From what I have found out. The power line frequency is still used to time the RF signals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong_insteon Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 Hi Brian, I see, noted... From what I have found out. The power line frequency is still used to time the RF signals. <= Currently I use this step down transformer is able to on / off the 2672-222 LED Bulb through the 2413U PLM, but it's not that stable.. And also able to pairing / linking but also not that stable. These all commands, sometimes can work, sometimes cannot work.. So this make me a doubt that whether what you mean. (The power line frequency is still used to time the RF signals.) thank you -- wong -- wong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong_insteon Posted April 24, 2014 Author Share Posted April 24, 2014 oh.. I just tried that if not mistaken, the 2413U/S PLM is not able to get the the X10 remote control or keyfob's control's RF signal.. Isn't it? But able to get the X10's powerline signal.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oberkc Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 You are not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Correct. The 2413U/S only do X10 Power Line signals. They do not process the US 310MHz X10 RF commands. Only the 915MHz US Insteon RF Commands. If your X10 RF devices are not for US use. They may not be on the 310MHz frequency but on the International X10 RF Frequency of 433.92MHz. The International Insteon RF frequencies are also different. Depending on the area of the world. They where designed for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 The 2413U,2457D2,2672-222 are all designed to work on 120 Volts 60 Cycles. Running them on 120 volts 50 cycles may cause unwanted problems as their power supplies are not made for 50 Cycles. The Insteon RF Frequency here is 915MHz. The allowed RF frequency in your country maybe different and you maybe getting interference from another RF source. The Insteon RF distance varies. Depending on what maybe between the devices. You may want to try the modules right next to the 2413U PLM. So you know you have a good RF signal and see how reliable they are. Have you given any more thought to using the International versions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong_insteon Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 Hi Brian, You may want to try the modules right next to the 2413U PLM. So you know you have a good RF signal and see how reliable they are. <= yah, currently I'm developing this way currently.. Have you given any more thought to using the International versions? <= Actually I help other people is U.S. to develop software application, so at last the system still use in US. So that is why I didn't consider on International versions.. Other than that, if I buy buy UK version INSTEON appliances (50 Hz), the voltage range is 230 VAC, but the 2413U PLM's voltage is still 110 VAC. It's quite troublesome for me also... Thousand thanks to let me know yah! -- wong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Yes the PLM would still also be using the RF Frequency of 915 MHZ and the UK would be on a different RF Frequency so it still would not communicate with the Dual band UK modules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong_insteon Posted June 24, 2014 Author Share Posted June 24, 2014 Hi Brian, Actually I bought a stepdown transformer with frequency converter functionality (230VAC 50Hz => 120VAC 60Hz ) and test my PLM 2413 series modem (usb and serial) with the software, HouseLinc Insteon. I try to send the on / off command to my 2672-222 bulb through the Modem, but the stability still not that stable. It's sometimes can work sometimes cannot work. Both the PLM 2413 and the bulb are connect to the output from that transformer. Is that the RF influence or the output sine wave got problem from the stepdown transformer? attached with the photos and some log.. http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg5 ... rtor_0.jpg http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg5 ... rtor_1.jpg http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg5 ... rtor_2.jpg http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg5 ... nostic.jpg http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/gg5 ... ostics.png ================================================================================== cmd_on_log ========== 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG Rx: Std Ack, From: 21.F8.95, To: 24.14.53, Flag: 20 (Hops: 0/0), C1: 00, C2: FF 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM INFO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finished updating device status for LED Bulb 21.F8.95 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG Firing LED Bulb 21.F8.95 StatusChanged event ... 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM INFO LED Bulb 21.F8.95 Status update: Last update 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM, level: On 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG WaitforReply, returning sendResult.. 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG WaitforReply, signaled 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG Starting WaitforReply, wait time: 3983 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG Calculated wait time: 3983 ms, no retries=False, hops left=0 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Ack, 02 62 21 F8 95 00 19 00 06 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG Tx: Std Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 00 (Hops: 0/0), C1: 19 (Light Status Request), C2: 00 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG GatewayCommandResult SendMessage sleep 150ms 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG Re-sending message.1 try 1 of 9999, wait 150ms 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG Rx: Std Ack, From: 21.F8.95, To: 24.14.53, Flag: 20 (Hops: 0/0), C1: 00, C2: FF 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Nak, 15. Delaying 240ms... 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG Tx: Std Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 00 (Hops: 0/0), C1: 19 (Light Status Request), C2: 00 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM INFO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finished updating device status for LED Bulb 21.F8.95 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG Firing LED Bulb 21.F8.95 StatusChanged event ... 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM INFO LED Bulb 21.F8.95 Status update: Last update 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM, level: On 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG WaitforReply, returning sendResult.. 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG WaitforReply, signaled 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG Starting WaitforReply, wait time: 3983 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG Calculated wait time: 3983 ms, no retries=False, hops left=0 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Ack, 02 62 21 F8 95 00 19 00 06 6/24/2014 6:00:56 PM DEBUG Tx: Std Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 00 (Hops: 0/0), C1: 19 (Light Status Request), C2: 00 6/24/2014 6:00:55 PM DEBUG GatewayCommandResult SendMessage sleep 450ms 6/24/2014 6:00:55 PM DEBUG Re-sending message.1 try 3 of 9999, wait 450ms 6/24/2014 6:00:55 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:00:55 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Nak, 15. Delaying 240ms... 6/24/2014 6:00:55 PM DEBUG Removed 1 byte: F8 6/24/2014 6:00:55 PM DEBUG Rx: Unknown data. Discard 1 byte... 6/24/2014 6:00:55 PM DEBUG Removed 1 byte: 02 6/24/2014 6:00:55 PM DEBUG Rx: Unknown data. Discard 1 byte... 6/24/2014 6:00:55 PM DEBUG Tx: Std Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 00 (Hops: 0/0), C1: 19 (Light Status Request), C2: 00 6/24/2014 6:00:55 PM DEBUG GatewayCommandResult SendMessage sleep 300ms 6/24/2014 6:00:55 PM DEBUG Re-sending message.1 try 2 of 9999, wait 300ms 6/24/2014 6:00:55 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Nak, 15. Delaying 240ms... 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM DEBUG Tx: Std Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 00 (Hops: 0/0), C1: 19 (Light Status Request), C2: 00 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM DEBUG GatewayCommandResult SendMessage sleep 150ms 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM DEBUG Re-sending message.1 try 1 of 9999, wait 150ms 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM DEBUG Rx: Std Ack, From: 21.F8.95, To: 24.14.53, Flag: 20 (Hops: 0/0), C1: 11, C2: FF 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Nak, 15. Delaying 240ms... 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM DEBUG Tx: Std Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 00 (Hops: 0/0), C1: 19 (Light Status Request), C2: 00 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM INFO Successfully sent Turn On command to LED Bulb. 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM DEBUG WaitforReply, returning sendResult.. 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM DEBUG WaitforReply, signaled 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM DEBUG Starting WaitforReply, wait time: 3983 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM DEBUG Calculated wait time: 3983 ms, no retries=False, hops left=0 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Ack, 02 62 21 F8 95 00 11 FF 06 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM DEBUG Tx: Std Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 00 (Hops: 0/0), C1: 11 (Light ON), C2: FF 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM DEBUG GatewayCommandResult SendMessage sleep 300ms 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM DEBUG Re-sending message.1 try 2 of 9999, wait 300ms 6/24/2014 6:00:54 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Nak, 15. Delaying 240ms... 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM DEBUG Rx: Std Ack, From: 21.F8.95, To: 24.14.53, Flag: 2B (Hops: 2/3), C1: 11, C2: FF 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM DEBUG Tx: Std Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 00 (Hops: 0/0), C1: 11 (Light ON), C2: FF 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM DEBUG GatewayCommandResult SendMessage sleep 150ms 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM DEBUG Re-sending message.1 try 1 of 9999, wait 150ms 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Nak, 15. Delaying 240ms... 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM DEBUG Tx: Std Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 00 (Hops: 0/0), C1: 11 (Light ON), C2: FF 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM INFO Successfully sent Turn On command to LED Bulb. 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM DEBUG WaitforReply, returning sendResult.. 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM DEBUG WaitforReply, signaled 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM DEBUG Starting WaitforReply, wait time: 4583 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM DEBUG Calculated wait time: 4583 ms, no retries=False, hops left=3 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Ack, 02 62 21 F8 95 0F 11 FF 06 6/24/2014 6:00:53 PM DEBUG Tx: Std Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 0F (Hops: 3/3), C1: 11 (Light ON), C2: FF 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM DEBUG GatewayCommandResult SendMessage sleep 450ms 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM DEBUG Re-sending message.1 try 3 of 9999, wait 450ms 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Nak, 15. Delaying 240ms... 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM DEBUG Removed 1 byte: 21 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM DEBUG Rx: Unknown data. Discard 1 byte... 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM DEBUG Removed 1 byte: 02 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM DEBUG Rx: Unknown data. Discard 1 byte... 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM DEBUG Tx: Std Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 0F (Hops: 3/3), C1: 11 (Light ON), C2: FF 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM DEBUG GatewayCommandResult SendMessage sleep 300ms 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM DEBUG Rx: Std Ack, From: 21.F8.95, To: 24.14.53, Flag: 21 (Hops: 0/1), C1: 11, C2: FF 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM DEBUG Re-sending message.1 try 2 of 9999, wait 300ms 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Nak, 15. Delaying 240ms... 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM DEBUG Firing LED Bulb 21.F8.95 StatusChanged event ... 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM DEBUG Queue in Updating status for LED Bulb 21.F8.95 6/24/2014 6:00:52 PM INFO <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Updating status of LED Bulb 21.F8.95 ================================================================================== ================================================================================== cmd_linking_log ============= Time Level Message 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM INFO >>> Synchronizing Properties of LED Bulb 21.F8.95 Succeeded 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM INFO <<< Synchronizing Properties of LED Bulb 21.F8.95 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM INFO >>> Synchronizing Database of PowerLinc Serial Modem AA.AA.AA Succeeded 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM DEBUG Database sequence for AA.AA.AA is 1 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM TRACE Clearing out database entries past 2 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM DEBUG Added record[1]: Address: 21.F8.95 Group: 0x00 Record Control: 0xE2 Data1: 0x01 Data2: 0x00 Data3: 0x00 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM DB Read Result, 1F F0 E2 00 21 F8 95 01 00 00 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Ack, 02 75 1F F0 06 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM DEBUG Tx: Read PLM's record at 1F F0 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM INFO Gateway Read Database Record at 1FF0 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Ack, 02 76 1F F0 E2 00 21 F8 95 01 00 00 06 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM DEBUG Tx: Write PLM's record, 1F F0 E2 00 21 F8 95 01 00 00 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM INFO Gateway Write Database Record at 1FF0 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM DEBUG Writing record at index: 1 for AA.AA.AA 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM INFO Writing record 1 from AA.AA.AA 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM INFO Finished reading record 1 from AA.AA.AA, comparing record... 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM DB Read Result, 1F F0 62 00 21 F8 95 01 00 00 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Ack, 02 75 1F F0 06 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM DEBUG Tx: Read PLM's record at 1F F0 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM INFO Gateway Read Database Record at 1FF0 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM INFO Reading record 1 from AA.AA.AA 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM INFO Delta changes over database size: 0/2 = 0 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM TRACE Sychronizing database for AA.AA.AA 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM INFO SyncDatabaseFromDevice started for AA.AA.AA; forceRead=False, write=True 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM INFO <<< Synchronizing Database of PowerLinc Serial Modem AA.AA.AA 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM INFO >>> Synchronizing Database of LED Bulb 21.F8.95 Succeeded 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM DEBUG Database sequence for 21.F8.95 is 1 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM TRACE Clearing out database entries past 1 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM ERROR Exception during StringFormat: Index (zero based) must be greater than or equal to zero and less than the size of the argument list. Exception with read, write, verify. Record[{0}] to {1}. Exception: {3}{0, 21.F8.95, System.Exception: Device did not respond. at SmartLabs.Insteon.Database.InsteonDatabaseManagerC.SyncDatabaseFromDeviceWithoutRead(Boolean forceRead)} 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM ERROR Failed to write.1 record[0] to 21.F8.95 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM ERROR Failed to write record[0] to 21.F8.95 after 3 tries. 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM ERROR Sending timed out.2: SendInsteonMessage 6/24/2014 6:29:52 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:51 PM DEBUG Rx: Std Nak, From: 21.F8.95, To: AA.AA.AA, Flag: AB (Hops: 2/3), C1: 2F, C2: FD 6/24/2014 6:29:50 PM DEBUG Failed to removed 1 byte. 6/24/2014 6:29:50 PM DEBUG Rx: Parsing error. Discard 1 byte... 6/24/2014 6:29:50 PM DEBUG Error parsing echo for current command: SendInsteonMessage: 21 F8 95 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:50 PM DEBUG Tx: Ext Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 1F (Hops: 3/3), C1: 2F (Read/Write ALL-Link Database), C2: 00, Data: 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:50 PM ERROR Sending timed out.2: SendInsteonMessage 6/24/2014 6:29:50 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:49 PM DEBUG Rx: Std Nak, From: 21.F8.95, To: AA.AA.AA, Flag: AB (Hops: 2/3), C1: 2F, C2: FD 6/24/2014 6:29:49 PM DEBUG Failed to removed 1 byte. 6/24/2014 6:29:49 PM DEBUG Rx: Parsing error. Discard 1 byte... 6/24/2014 6:29:49 PM DEBUG Error parsing echo for current command: SendInsteonMessage: 21 F8 95 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:49 PM DEBUG Tx: Ext Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 1F (Hops: 3/3), C1: 2F (Read/Write ALL-Link Database), C2: 00, Data: 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:49 PM ERROR Sending timed out.2: SendInsteonMessage 6/24/2014 6:29:49 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:48 PM DEBUG Rx: Std Nak, From: 21.F8.95, To: AA.AA.AA, Flag: AB (Hops: 2/3), C1: 2F, C2: FD 6/24/2014 6:29:47 PM DEBUG Failed to removed 1 byte. 6/24/2014 6:29:47 PM DEBUG Rx: Parsing error. Discard 1 byte... 6/24/2014 6:29:47 PM DEBUG Error parsing echo for current command: SendInsteonMessage: 21 F8 95 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:47 PM DEBUG Tx: Ext Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 1F (Hops: 3/3), C1: 2F (Read/Write ALL-Link Database), C2: 00, Data: 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:47 PM ERROR Sending timed out.2: SendInsteonMessage 6/24/2014 6:29:47 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:46 PM DEBUG Rx: Std Ack, From: 21.F8.95, To: AA.AA.AA, Flag: 2B (Hops: 2/3), C1: 2F, C2: 00 6/24/2014 6:29:46 PM DEBUG Failed to removed 1 byte. 6/24/2014 6:29:46 PM DEBUG Rx: Parsing error. Discard 1 byte... 6/24/2014 6:29:46 PM DEBUG Error parsing echo for current command: SendInsteonMessage: 21 F8 95 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:46 PM DEBUG Tx: Ext Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 1F (Hops: 3/3), C1: 2F (Read/Write ALL-Link Database), C2: 00, Data: 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:46 PM ERROR Sending timed out.2: SendInsteonMessage 6/24/2014 6:29:46 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:45 PM DEBUG Rx: Std Ack, From: 21.F8.95, To: AA.AA.AA, Flag: 2B (Hops: 2/3), C1: 2F, C2: 00 6/24/2014 6:29:44 PM DEBUG Failed to removed 1 byte. 6/24/2014 6:29:44 PM DEBUG Rx: Parsing error. Discard 1 byte... 6/24/2014 6:29:44 PM DEBUG Error parsing echo for current command: SendInsteonMessage: 21 F8 95 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:44 PM DEBUG Tx: Ext Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 1F (Hops: 3/3), C1: 2F (Read/Write ALL-Link Database), C2: 00, Data: 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:44 PM ERROR Sending timed out.2: SendInsteonMessage 6/24/2014 6:29:44 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:43 PM DEBUG Rx: Std Ack, From: 21.F8.95, To: AA.AA.AA, Flag: 2B (Hops: 2/3), C1: 00, C2: 00 6/24/2014 6:29:43 PM DEBUG Failed to removed 1 byte. 6/24/2014 6:29:43 PM DEBUG Rx: Parsing error. Discard 1 byte... 6/24/2014 6:29:43 PM DEBUG Error parsing echo for current command: SendInsteonMessage: 21 F8 95 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:43 PM DEBUG Tx: Ext Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 1F (Hops: 3/3), C1: 2F (Read/Write ALL-Link Database), C2: 00, Data: 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:42 PM ERROR Sending timed out.2: SendInsteonMessage 6/24/2014 6:29:42 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:40 PM DEBUG Failed to removed 1 byte. 6/24/2014 6:29:40 PM DEBUG Rx: Parsing error. Discard 1 byte... 6/24/2014 6:29:40 PM DEBUG Error parsing echo for current command: SendInsteonMessage: 21 F8 95 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:40 PM DEBUG Tx: Ext Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 1F (Hops: 3/3), C1: 2F (Read/Write ALL-Link Database), C2: 00, Data: 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:40 PM ERROR Sending timed out.2: SendInsteonMessage 6/24/2014 6:29:40 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:40 PM DEBUG Rx: Std Ack, From: 21.F8.95, To: AA.AA.AA, Flag: 2B (Hops: 2/3), C1: 2F, C2: 00 6/24/2014 6:29:39 PM DEBUG Failed to removed 1 byte. 6/24/2014 6:29:39 PM DEBUG Rx: Parsing error. Discard 1 byte... 6/24/2014 6:29:39 PM DEBUG Error parsing echo for current command: SendInsteonMessage: 21 F8 95 1F 2F 00 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:39 PM DEBUG Tx: Ext Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 1F (Hops: 3/3), C1: 2F (Read/Write ALL-Link Database), C2: 00, Data: 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:39 PM DEBUG GatewayCommandResult SendMessage sleep 150ms 6/24/2014 6:29:39 PM DEBUG Re-sending message.1 try 1 of 9999, wait 150ms 6/24/2014 6:29:39 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:39 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Nak, 15. Delaying 240ms... 6/24/2014 6:29:39 PM DEBUG Tx: Ext Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 1F (Hops: 3/3), C1: 2F (Read/Write ALL-Link Database), C2: 00, Data: 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:39 PM ERROR Sending timed out.2: SendInsteonMessage 6/24/2014 6:29:39 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:38 PM DEBUG Rx: Std Nak, From: 21.F8.95, To: AA.AA.AA, Flag: A6 (Hops: 1/2), C1: 2F, C2: FD 6/24/2014 6:29:37 PM DEBUG Failed to removed 1 byte. 6/24/2014 6:29:37 PM DEBUG Rx: Parsing error. Discard 1 byte... 6/24/2014 6:29:37 PM DEBUG Error parsing echo for current command: SendInsteonMessage: 21 F8 95 15 2F 00 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:37 PM DEBUG Tx: Ext Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 15 (Hops: 1/1), C1: 2F (Read/Write ALL-Link Database), C2: 00, Data: 00 02 0F FF 08 A2 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 01 FA 6/24/2014 6:29:37 PM DEBUG Writing record[0] to 21.F8.95 6/24/2014 6:29:37 PM INFO Writing record 0 from 21.F8.95 6/24/2014 6:29:37 PM INFO Finished reading record 0 from 21.F8.95, comparing record... 6/24/2014 6:29:37 PM ERROR Sending timed out.2: SendInsteonMessage 6/24/2014 6:29:37 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:36 PM DEBUG Rx: Ext Msg, From: 21.F8.95, To: AA.AA.AA, Flag: 11 (Hops: 0/1), C1: 2F (Read/Write ALL-Link Database), C2: 00, Data: 00 01 0F FF 00 AA 00 AA AA AA FF 1F 00 FC 6/24/2014 6:29:36 PM DEBUG Rx: Std Ack, From: 21.F8.95, To: AA.AA.AA, Flag: 2B (Hops: 2/3), C1: 2F, C2: 00 6/24/2014 6:29:36 PM DEBUG Failed to removed 1 byte. 6/24/2014 6:29:36 PM DEBUG Rx: Parsing error. Discard 1 byte... 6/24/2014 6:29:36 PM DEBUG Error parsing echo for current command: SendInsteonMessage: 21 F8 95 3F 2F 00 01 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 6/24/2014 6:29:36 PM DEBUG Tx: Ext Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 3F (Hops: 3/3), C1: 2F (Read/Write ALL-Link Database), C2: 00, Data: 01 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 6/24/2014 6:29:36 PM ERROR Sending timed out.2: SendInsteonMessage 6/24/2014 6:29:36 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:35 PM DEBUG Rx: Ext Msg, From: 21.F8.95, To: AA.AA.AA, Flag: 11 (Hops: 0/1), C1: 2F (Read/Write ALL-Link Database), C2: 00, Data: 00 01 0F 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0 6/24/2014 6:29:35 PM DEBUG Rx: Std Ack, From: 21.F8.95, To: AA.AA.AA, Flag: 2B (Hops: 2/3), C1: 2F, C2: 00 6/24/2014 6:29:34 PM DEBUG Failed to removed 1 byte. 6/24/2014 6:29:34 PM DEBUG Rx: Parsing error. Discard 1 byte... 6/24/2014 6:29:34 PM DEBUG Error parsing echo for current command: SendInsteonMessage: 21 F8 95 3F 2F 00 01 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 6/24/2014 6:29:34 PM DEBUG Tx: Ext Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 3F (Hops: 3/3), C1: 2F (Read/Write ALL-Link Database), C2: 00, Data: 01 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 6/24/2014 6:29:34 PM ERROR Sending timed out.2: SendInsteonMessage 6/24/2014 6:29:34 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:33 PM DEBUG Failed to removed 1 byte. 6/24/2014 6:29:33 PM DEBUG Rx: Parsing error. Discard 1 byte... 6/24/2014 6:29:33 PM DEBUG Error parsing echo for current command: SendInsteonMessage: 21 F8 95 3F 2F 00 01 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM DEBUG Tx: Ext Msg, To: 21.F8.95, Flag: 3F (Hops: 3/3), C1: 2F (Read/Write ALL-Link Database), C2: 00, Data: 01 00 0F FF 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM DEBUG Reading record[0] of 21.F8.95 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM INFO Reading record 0 from 21.F8.95 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM INFO Delta changes over database size: 0/1 = 0 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM TRACE Sychronizing database for 21.F8.95 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM INFO SyncDatabaseFromDevice started for 21.F8.95; forceRead=False, write=True 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM INFO <<< Synchronizing Database of LED Bulb 21.F8.95 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM DEBUG Low priority tasks, pause released. There are 0 pause requests pending. 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Ack, 02 65 06 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM DEBUG Tx: Cancel All-Linking 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM DEBUG Cancel All-Linking. 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM DEBUG Queue in Synchronizing Properties of LED Bulb 21.F8.95 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM DEBUG Queue in Synchronizing Database of PowerLinc Serial Modem AA.AA.AA 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM DEBUG Added record[1]: Address: 21.F8.95 Group: 0x00 Record Control: 0xE2 Data1: 0x01 Data2: 0x00 Data3: 0x00 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM DEBUG Queue in Synchronizing Database of LED Bulb 21.F8.95 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM DEBUG Added record[0]: Address: AA.AA.AA Group: 0x00 Record Control: 0xA2 Data1: 0xFF Data2: 0x1F Data3: 0x01 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM DEBUG Device LED Bulb 21.F8.95 was created. 6/24/2014 6:29:32 PM DEBUG Rx: All-Linking Completed, 01 00 21 F8 95 01 3A 42 6/24/2014 6:29:13 PM DEBUG Pause for 300ms after Start All-Linking for 3 hop, no retry INSTEON broadcast. 6/24/2014 6:29:13 PM WARN PLMDataProcessorCommand Write timeout of 1500 milliseconds 6/24/2014 6:29:13 PM DEBUG Rx: PLM Ack, 02 64 03 00 06 6/24/2014 6:29:13 PM DEBUG Tx: Start All-Linking, 03 00 6/24/2014 6:29:13 PM DEBUG Start All-Linking. LinkType: ResponderOrController, Group: 0x00 6/24/2014 6:29:13 PM DEBUG Low priority tasks, pause requested ================================================================================== -- wong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted June 24, 2014 Share Posted June 24, 2014 I saw you post on the Smarthome Forums. Insteon section. If the converters output is not a clean 120 volts 60 cycles pure sine wave. You may have problems. The 60 cycle sine wave is used for Zero Crossing Detection and signal timing. If it is dirty or not a good sine wave. Timing and Zero Crossing detection maybe effected. The 2672-222 bulb is also on the 120 volts 60 cycle converter? I take it your bulbs is not the recently updated model with a 100-240 volt 60 cycle power and a higher Lumens Output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong_insteon Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 Hi Brian, Sorry of the late reply.. Actually both my PLM and 2472-222 bulb plug into the 120VAC 60Hz outlet (convert from 230VAC 50Hz). I have tested the power consumption of this bulb, it did take about 9 to 10 Watts I think, the converters output is not a clean 120 volts 60 cycles pure sine wave. Then it caused the stability issues. So I have to work out with the colleague in U.S. to continue the development. -- wong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong_insteon Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 Hi Brian, Have you developed the insteon with powerLinc Modem (such as 2413S) before? Do you have any example codes, or insteon protocols or detail explanation to list the all the devices in insteon power line and RF network? And also the example of add / remove the devices? -- wong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted July 1, 2014 Share Posted July 1, 2014 I do belong to the Insteon Developers Group but have done no development with software or controllers. I was more interested in the hardware side of the protocol. I don't remember if I gave you this link before. It has great information on Insteon. There is a link on that page for the older revision 2412S PLM Developers Guide. The same basic commands are also in the 2413S PLM. http://www.madreporite.com/insteon/insteon.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wong_insteon Posted July 1, 2014 Author Share Posted July 1, 2014 I have seen u have recommended this link to other developer before. Thank u very much I felt that they don't have a real standard yet after I study through their documentation pdf, INSTEON_Developers_Guide_20090218.pdf. Still R & D much on these... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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