Range Extender 2992-222 questions

[mrbudin]

I read user manual of INSTEON 2992-222 RANGE EXTENDER

 

It's worth noting that Range Extender can bridge two different electric phases making it works across your home.

 

For example: If i have two electric phases in my home:

 

Phase 1: Electric line: 220V/50 Hz with Range Extender 1 (RE 1) and a few Insteon Devices

Phase 2: Electric line: 120V/60 Hz with Range Extender 2 (RE 2) and a few Insteon Devices

 

Can i make every Insteon Devices installed in phase 1 and phase 2 work together with only one HUB by bridging two Range Extender 1 and Extender 2 ?

 

Does it work or not? Anyone has tried it before?

 

Thanks

[stusviews]

Yes. It does work.

 

Electricity is delivered to homes as a split, single-phase electric supply. The split is two opposite legs providing 220/240 volts and a center tap which is the neutral. The voltage between each leg and neutral is 110/120 volts. A phase-coupler bridges those opposite legs which are often, but incorrectly, referred to a phases.

 

That said, any two dual-band devices including the Hub and Range Extenders, SwitchLincs, LampLincs, etc. correctly located will bridge opposite legs of the split, single-phase electric supply. Use the 4-tap test described in most dual-band Owner's Manuals to determine if you have at least two communicating devices.

 

[Brian H]

The full users manuals for your devices should tell you how to do the communications tests.

Some of the later models use the Manual Set Button Flow Chart sequences. Though many use the four quick taps on the set button to start the communications {some manuals called it the Beacon Test}.

[Teken]

One thing worthy of noting is that the HUB does not repeat the signal actively unless the Insteon device is enrolled and listed in its data base.

 

Unlike a AP / Range Extender its a matter of plug and play. Once properly coupled / bridged the unit repeats and regenerates the full strength of the Insteon signal down the circuit.

[mrbudin]

Yes. It does work.

 

Electricity is delivered to homes as a split, single-phase electric supply. The split is two opposite legs providing 220/240 volts and a center tap which is the neutral. The voltage between each leg and neutral is 110/120 volts. A phase-coupler bridges those opposite legs which are often, but incorrectly, referred to a phases.

 

That said, any two dual-band devices including the Hub and Range Extenders, SwitchLincs, LampLincs, etc. correctly located will bridge opposite legs of the split, single-phase electric supply. Use the 4-tap test described in most dual-band Owner's Manuals to determine if you have at least two communicating devices.

If i do not have range extender here, i can use two On/Off dual-band to test couple phases, right?

[Teken]

If i do not have range extender here, i can use two On/Off dual-band to test couple phases, right?

 Yes . . .

[mrbudin]

So i can now use IO/Linc at 220v/50hz by triggering this way.

 

I will plug IO Linc through power converter 220v/50 Hz to 120V/60 Hz, then bridge the new electric phase 120v/60hz with 220v/50hz by two On/Off dual-band. It will allows IO Linc to work with 220V/50Hz through this bypass.

[Brian H]

Probably not.

The I/OLinc is strictly a power line device, no Insteon RF signaling in it. The Insteon messages would have to pass through the 220v/50hz  to 120v/60hz converter cleanly with no distortion or noise.

 

If the 220v/50hz to 120v/60hz converter is not a PURE sine wave output with no distortion. It also may not work.

 

The range extender is also strictly a 120v/60hz module.

[Teken]

Probably not.

The I/OLinc is strictly a power line device, no Insteon RF signaling in it. The Insteon messages would have to pass through the 220v/50hz  to 120v/60hz converter.

Also if the 220v/50hz to 120v/60hz converter is not a PURE sine wave output with no distortion. It also may not work.

The range extender is also strictly a 120v/60hz module.

 

I agree with Brian H on this.

 

Initially I thought you had a typo for the 220v / 50 hz when you first wrote in. It would be best if you stuck with what ever dual band devices that are being sold for your countries electrical system.

 

This will ensure reliable COM's for both power line and RF.

[Brian H]

I remembered on more point.

The RF Frequency used by the US/Canada modules is not the same as other countries.

So Teken made a very good point. Intermixing US and other countries modules will result in them not all talking to each other.

[stusviews]

mrbudin, what is your location/country. What I wrote above about the electric supply concerns most of North America only.