ingeborgdot Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 What will the isy994 give me over the isy99? Will it make getting into my isy from outside my network easier? If so, how? Can someone explain that to me? Thanks so very much.
Brian H Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 The ISY99i is discontinued and because of firmware limitations. It will not support any of the latest Insteon Devices due to older firmware. The last firmware for the ISY99i is 3.3.10.
ingeborgdot Posted January 9, 2015 Author Posted January 9, 2015 I understand that. Thanks. Other than firmware is that it? Will it stop the java issue of not letting me get on some computers because of security issues? What will the updated firmware do in the 994 that can't be done in the 99? Thanks.
stusviews Posted January 9, 2015 Posted January 9, 2015 The updated firmware has more features. But it won't make off-site access any easier. What is your specific difficulty with off-site access?
ingeborgdot Posted January 9, 2015 Author Posted January 9, 2015 I used to use dyndns but they went to pay instead of free so for the little I used it I didn't want the cost. I then went to noip but for some reason it does not work properly. I had to get a new router with AT&T Uverse and that doesn't give me any good options to use noip like the other router I had so that may be the reason more so than noip. I just am not sure what to do to make it work properly on my other computers that I take on the road. I did have it set after Michael helped me with just using my ip address but when I was gone it didn't work and came back to find the ip had changed. That just doesn't cut it. I just need to find a tutorial or something.
Teken Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 In the short term staying with the 99 is perfectly fine. As others stated should you need to replace a device it won't work with the 99 as it won't be listed in the device table. There are still lots of people using a 99 so don't feel alone. It's a solid box so keep using it until you need to migrate to a 994. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
stusviews Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 As I mentioned, off-site access does not differ between the 99 and the 994. And, as indicated by Teken, newer devices are not supported by the 99. So, you have a reason to stay (with what you have) and a reason to go (for an updated ISY). In any case, you'll need a service for off-site access (or a costly static IP address). I don't have a recommendation for a free service.
oberkc Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 For what it is worth, my latest router is from netgear. It comes with a complimentary static ip service mynetgear.com. So far, so good.
LeeG Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 Keep in mind that lack of new device support extends to KeypadLincs. If using KPLs and one fails the replacement KPLs cannot be used on a 99i.
stusviews Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 You do not need to use or pay for the router from AT&T. I use a Netgear router and AT&T is the provider.
Teken Posted January 10, 2015 Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) I would like to say one of the biggest updates in the 994 is having the ability to remote wake up and update a motion sensor. If you have a few of these devices just having this ability is worth upgrading alone. This feature also works on the hidden door sensor and mini remotes. NOTE: This feature may not work on all battery devices or previous generation firmware releases. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited January 10, 2015 by Teken
ingeborgdot Posted January 19, 2015 Author Posted January 19, 2015 You do not need to use or pay for the router from AT&T. I use a Netgear router and AT&T is the provider. For Uverse?
larryllix Posted January 19, 2015 Posted January 19, 2015 I also have Netgear router and this is the free DDNS service it connects you to. http://www.noip.com/free It is a cloud service that you use to connect through to your router using a fixed URL that doesn't change when your IP address does.
Grizzy Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 I used to use dyndns but they went to pay instead of free so for the little I used it I didn't want the cost. I then went to noip but for some reason it does not work properly. I had to get a new router with AT&T Uverse and that doesn't give me any good options to use noip like the other router I had so that may be the reason more so than noip. I just am not sure what to do to make it work properly on my other computers that I take on the road. I did have it set after Michael helped me with just using my ip address but when I was gone it didn't work and came back to find the ip had changed. That just doesn't cut it. I just need to find a tutorial or something. I had same issue with DYNDNS ... So I also started use my home IP ... But same problem my ISP changes my IP now and then and I won't pay for a static IP ... So I have a device send me a daily email ... Look in the header and you will find your new IP ... I think you could have the ISY do it , you may have to set the ISY to use your SMTP. I have not checked the header using the UD server, it may still contain your home IP. Takes a few seconds yo look through the header, BUT saves me a bunch of money over buying a static IP. Works for me when I'm away from home, might be an idea for you. Don
Teken Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 I had same issue with DYNDNS ... So I also started use my home IP ... But same problem my ISP changes my IP now and then and I won't pay for a static IP ... So I have a device send me a daily email ... Look in the header and you will find your new IP ... I think you could have the ISY do it , you may have to set the ISY to use your SMTP. I have not checked the header using the UD server, it may still contain your home IP. Takes a few seconds yo look through the header, BUT saves me a bunch of money over buying a static IP. Works for me when I'm away from home, might be an idea for you. Don Don, You're so old school I love it . . .
416to305 Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) Don, You're so old school I love it . . . I think the word is "cheap"... My static IP at home is $4 per month and I know that I can access my home from anywhere, at any time. That's a small price to pay for peace of mind in my opinion. Edited January 23, 2015 by 416to305
Jimbo.Automates Posted January 23, 2015 Posted January 23, 2015 Or a domain name from Google is $12 a year, and dynamic dns is included.
Grizzy Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 I think the word is "cheap"... My static IP at home is $4 per month and I know that I can access my home from anywhere, at any time. That's a small price to pay for peace of mind in my opinion. Well you are fortunate !! My ISP required a commercial account to assign me a static IP. That would have been about $45/month more. Now if that's peanuts to you, again you are fortunate, but for me on SS retirement that is a significant sum of money. I did not appreciate your "CHEAP" comment. If can not be constructive keep your comments to yourself. Don
Teken Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) Well you are fortunate !! My ISP required a commercial account to assign me a static IP. That would have been about $45/month more. Now if that's peanuts to you, again you are fortunate, but for me on SS retirement that is a significant sum of money. I did not appreciate your "CHEAP" comment. If can not be constructive keep your comments to yourself. Don Don, Worry not lots of the young folks like to throw good money out the window with out much care or thought about how to solve a problem. This is something I've seen for ages which I am sure you can relate. We are fast approaching critical mass in automating ever facet of our lives. With out real people thinking about alternate solutions its safe to say the next generation are doomed to fail. As I stated above, you taking the time to read the e-mail headers is something easy to do, free, and resolves the issue at hand. Kudo's to you in using your noggin in the way that also provides a solution down the road here and somewhere else. I am not quite at your age group but rest assured *Old School* has led us to the moon and back . . . Rock On . . . Edited January 24, 2015 by Teken
stusviews Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 DynDNS is $25/year which includes up to 30 host names.
Jimbo.Automates Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 Yes, I was using Dyndns but it's blocked from being used from my work wifi and a one hotel I just stayed at recently
stusviews Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 I can understand a work environment blocking internet traffic, but a hotel? Which hotel did that?
Jimbo.Automates Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 Most Internet isn't blocked at work, just some sites, and any site coming from any of the Dyndns type services. It was actually 2 places one in Laguna Beach, and one in Santa Barbara.
stusviews Posted January 24, 2015 Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) I do understand work environments blocking certain, but not all internet sites. I've experienced that. But, which hotels? None that I've ever been to in Santa Barbara, a decidedly college party town. And Laguna Beach, a somewhat wild resort area in spite of being in Orange county. Edited January 24, 2015 by stusviews
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