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Fanlinc Connected to ToggleLinc - Always On?


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I have purchased a couple FanLincs to use in a new home that I recently moved into. I've been using Insteon gear since about 2008 and already have a couple ToggleLincs in play. 

What I'm wondering is if I can wire up a ToggleLinc as the 'switch' that controls a FanLinc, but short the Line and Load together and leave the Load from the ToggleLinc unconnected.

Basically, I want the FanLinc to have power all the time, but then want the ToggleLinc to act as a controller. I'll use my ISY994 to do the magic for multiple on/off commands to do different things... but I am wondering if in this situation, the ToggleLinc will be able to send control commands and such without the Load wire connected. 

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I believe I read you connections correctly.

If the Incoming Line is feeding the Line of the ToggeLinc and the Line of the FanLinc.

Neutral to both.

ToggeLinc Load wire capped off and not used.

The FanLinc can be linked to the ToggleLinc to be controlled. As both will be powered all the time and the FanLinc will not be using the ToggleLinc's Load connection for its power.

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What will the ToggleLinc control, the light or the fan? If the latter will it conrtol fast, medium or slow?

 

Both. I'll use my ISY994 to do various things with the on/off states and commands from the ToggleLinc.

 

i.e. control ON once = lights on. Again, fan speed increase, etc.  I might also consider just getting a KPL to have specific buttons for each thing, but I could use a single ToggleLinc and some creative programming to do what I want. 

 

 

I may not end up doing this at all, but I was curious about wiring. I bought a non-insteon remote for my bedroom fan, as that was the simplest way I could get thermostatic control. I'll install a FanLinc in my livingroom fan, though, and might want to use a ToggleLinc... but I'm thinking a KPL might be more useful for that location. 

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Any controller for the FanLinc is not wired to the FanLinc at all, not even the recommended KPL. There is no special wiring needed. The FanLinc is wired to line and neutral and connects to the fan's light(s) and motor. All control is via links (scenes) and/or programs.

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The FanLinc still needs power, that power has to go through a switch unless you hard wire it to a circuit that doesn't have a switch. That's basically what I'd want to do at the switch, but replace the switch with a ToggleLinc or a KPL. Connect the line and load from the wall to the line wire on the TL or KPL, but leave the load unconnected... this should provide power to the load (the fan, or FanLinc) constantly, even if the TL or KPL is in an OFF status. 

 

I wanted to verify this would be true, and it sounds like it is. So I could set up my FanLinc connected to a ToggleLinc, and instead of the TL (or KPL) actually cutting power to the FanLinc, it just sends the OFF command to it. 

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You are correct. Both the ToggleLinc (or KPL) and the FanLinc require unswitched power. Yes, you can use a ToggleLinc as a controller to turn off the FanLinc--well, not exactly.

 

You can use a scene to turn off both the light and the fan. But what will ON do? Here are your choices:

 

Turn the light on at a preset On-level, anywhere from Off to 100% at a preset ramp rate AND/OR turn the fan to high, medium, low OR off.

 

A KPL provides ALL those options in one device, that is, independent light dimming and fan speed control.

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