Guitartexan Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 I'm using a built device with I/O relay and Ecolink tilt sensor to handle open/close notification, however, I'm still not satisfied with my security of the door due to not being able to engage the actual, physical locking handle inside the garage. I am designing an I/O circuit to engage a mag-lock that will not allow someone to overcome the opener and get in under the door. Any thoughts on this? I see no reason this would not work perfectly and offer the ability not only to open/close but also lock/unlock from work or out of the country even. Thanks for any feed back. GT Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
elvisimprsntr Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Most modern garage door openers will drive the door closed if it detects someone trying to force it open. Also the weakest link is the quick release handle which a burglar can open in 6 seconds with a coat hanger. There are complicated contraptions you can buy to thwart this method of entry or you can simply use Ty-wraps to secure it. Also remove the handle from the rope. Edited March 22, 2015 by elvisimprsntr
stusviews Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Do you require/desire a failsafe or failsecure lock? A failsafe lock provides an emergency exit in the event power fails, for example, an electric fire or something else that knocks out power.. A failsecure permits no entry nor egress in the even of a power failure.
Guitartexan Posted March 22, 2015 Author Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) I'm after fail secure with a UPS driving my home systems and an actual battery backup just for the maglock. We don't have many power failures in my area, and if we do, they are a few seconds to a minute at most. I was just wondering about a maglock because this would give me another layer of security at what I deem a weak point in my perimeter, and I could control the lock from a distance to let someone in. I don't know of any other device that would afford me those capabilities for a garage door, and the setup can be purchased fairly inexpensively. One can wire in a relay that will not allow the door opener to trigger unless the maglock is removed from the circuit.......or perhaps I should say, a relay that simultaneously opens the maglock loop and closes the push button circuit loop to open the door. I suppose it could be tied into the alarm system, if someone wished to take it that far. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Edited March 22, 2015 by Guitartexan
ISYhbsh01 Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) Personally, with a maglock I would go with failsafe and a UPS. I shudder to think of a scenario where the house is on fire, there is no power, the UPS battery is already depleted, and you are standing at the door trying with all your might to force it open to get out and you can't. Edited March 22, 2015 by hbsh01
G W Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 The most secure opener I found is https://www.liftmaster.com/For-Homes/Garage-Door-Openers/Elite-Series/model-8500 Sent from my SM-N900P using Tapatalk
Guitartexan Posted March 25, 2015 Author Posted March 25, 2015 Hey, thanks for all the info and suggestions folks. I'm waiting on parts to bench test this setup with Zwave control. I'll report back how it works out. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Scottmichaelj Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) http://www.nokey.com/brutelock.html Thanks for sharing this I think this may fit the bill for what I am looking for. The most secure opener I found is https://www.liftmaster.com/For-Homes/Garage-Door-Openers/Elite-Series/model-8500 Sent from my SM-N900P using Tapatalk I have the MyQ garage door with battery backup and I like it a lot. However even though you get notifications and such via the app if your on vacation say snorkeling off the beach in the Hawaii and not having your phone, its nice to have something secured. Even with a monitored alarm system if someone opens the garage they can snatch and grab before anyone can respond or do anything about it. This would stop that from happening. This lock would also would be a good option for those who have vacation homes. Its always important to think about fire safety and being able to get out via manual control which is another reason I like that lock. Guitartexan please post back what products you decided on and how it goes for others. Edited May 13, 2015 by huddadudda
G W Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 http://www.nokey.com/brutelock.html Thanks for sharing this I think this may fit the bill for what I am looking for. The LiftMaster opener I linked to has this built in and it doesn't cost $500. That's one reason why I chose that model.
Scottmichaelj Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 The LiftMaster opener I linked to has this built in and it doesn't cost $500. That's one reason why I chose that model. Ok either Im dense (which I am sometimes) or missing something. Maybe I am speaking my own language and not explaining myself right? The lock is an actual lock you can use to stop the actual physical opening of the rollup garage, which can be enabled/disabled automatically instead of the manual slide lock. The link you posted to the Liftmaster doesnt show an actual "lock". Im confused. Again I have a MyQ opener too. Granted the lock cost is pricey but thats cheaper then most peoples insurance deductible assuming $1000 is the norm and I think the lowest most companies allow.
G W Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Ok either Im dense (which I am sometimes) or missing something. Maybe I am speaking my own language and not explaining myself right? The lock is an actual lock you can use to stop the actual physical opening of the rollup garage, which can be enabled/disabled automatically instead of the manual slide lock. The link you posted to the Liftmaster doesnt show an actual "lock". Im confused. Again I have a MyQ opener too. Granted the lock cost is pricey but thats cheaper then most peoples insurance deductible assuming $1000 is the norm and I think the lowest most companies allow.Here is an image of the lock that came with the opener.
Scottmichaelj Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Yup I knew it, I was being dense. So in the link you posted if you go into the "Data Sell Sheet" pdf at the very bottom it mentions this part "Power Lock Deadbolt (041A6102) ensures the door cannot be forced open." Not sure why my builder installed system doesnt have it. Can you manually release the lock? I dont see how to lock unlock it from the app. Is it only via the panel in the garage? I guess I will look at the installation manual so I can see more details how it works. Thanks for sharing.
G W Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Yup I knew it, I was being dense. So in the link you posted if you go into the "Data Sell Sheet" pdf at the very bottom it mentions this part "Power Lock Deadbolt (041A6102) ensures the door cannot be forced open." Not sure why my builder installed system doesnt have it. Can you manually release the lock? I dont see how to lock unlock it from the app. Is it only via the panel in the garage? I guess I will look at the installation manual so I can see more details how it works. Thanks for sharing.Mine unlocks when you open the door and locks when the door is closed. There is a manual release on the lock as well as the door opener. Both can be operated from the same location. The main controller has a button to disable remote operation of the door and lock. With a little DIY this could be made even more secure.
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