InsteonNut Posted July 27, 2015 Author Posted July 27, 2015 Hi Andy, MobiLinc is as thin and close to the iOS reporting mechanism as possible for iBeacon status. Here's how iOS works: As soon as iOS sees just one packet from a monitored iBeacon, iOS tells MobiLinc about it and considers the iOS device INSIDE of the region. If 30 seconds goes by and iOS does not see any iBeacon packets for that monitored iBeacon region during those previous 30 seconds, then iOS tells MobiLinc that the iOS device is now OUTSIDE of the monitored iBeacon region. Keep in mind that iBeacon is BTLE which is 2.4 GHz and is adversely impacted by the human body absorbing 2.4 GHz. So, if you have your iPhone in a pocket, it will take longer for iOS to actually see an iBeacon packet then if the iPhone was out and in the open. Wes
elvisimprsntr Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 Wes, I have three Bleu Station 100 configured max TX power and MLHD. Looks like MLHD only updates the state variable for the last beacon which would have gone out of range as I left for work. I'm sure all three went out of range at same time. The forth is a geofence.
InsteonNut Posted July 27, 2015 Author Posted July 27, 2015 How do you have your iBeacons configured in MobiLinc? IE is the UUID, Major, Minor numbers all unique? Can you post a screenshot of your Settings->iBeacon page? Wes
elvisimprsntr Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 How do you have your iBeacons configured in MobiLinc? IE is the UUID, Major, Minor numbers all unique? Can you post a screenshot of your Settings->iBeacon page? Wes All three have unique minor but same major, which from what I have read is allowed. E.g. major=venue, minor=specific location. Sent screen cap in email.
Guitartexan01 Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 LOL... Of course it is... I'm waiting for the thread dedicated to the Android users' refund... Sent from my HTC6500LVW using Tapatalk THAT was funny. GT
ravedog Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 Will these features (once out of beta) be available for OH Mobilinc, if so - release date, simultaneous? (Hate to have to buy all the plugins again)....
sumguy Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 On iOS9 Beta, enabling touch ID sends Mobilinc into a loop. Upon startup of the app, it gives a prompt for TouchID verification. It confirms the fingerprint scan and brings me to my last page. However, that page freezes immediately, the screen goes black, and asks me to confirm my fingerprint again. I then confirm it, it goes back to black screen and the cycle starts over and over again. I had to uninstall Mobilinc and reinstall to get back into it. Don't know if this is only happening on iOS9 beta or if any of you on iOS8 are seeing it.
InsteonNut Posted July 27, 2015 Author Posted July 27, 2015 Hi ravedog, Yes, all features and new plug-ins will be in MobiLinc HD, Pro, and OML. All apps will be submitted to Apple at the same time for approval. We try for a simultaneous release, but some of the deciding factors here (Apple) are out of our control. Thanks sumguyinfl18, we're aware of the iOS 9 beta and Touch ID issue. Please do not use Touch ID for MobiLinc until we can investigate what Apple changed with the TouchID path in iOS 9 beta. Wes
kevkmartin Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 Added one device (Garage Lights) to show up on the watch. It looks like the graphic is scaling poorly. Running IOS9.0b4, WatchOS2.0b4 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
InsteonNut Posted July 27, 2015 Author Posted July 27, 2015 Thanks kevkmartin, that is indeed not what's supposed to happen. I strongly suspect this is due to the beta iOS/WatchOS release as the scaling that's happening here is controlled by the OS, not the MobiLinc app. Once the WatchOS2 is out this fall the plan is to move MobiLinc/Watch app to the new OS as quickly as possible to get the app running natively on the watch instead of the iPhone. Wes
philtor Posted July 27, 2015 Posted July 27, 2015 Hey Wes, I was able to test some of the new features today. I know this is still beta and expect some quirkiness, so here's what I've experienced so far: Sometimes when I leave the Mobilinc running as my foreground app on Apple Watch, when I activate the screen again it tells me it can't connect to Mobilinc on the iPhone. It doesn't seem to happen if I tap the digital crown when I'm done looking at it, this brings the clock back to the foreground, then I can launch Mobilinc again with no issues. BTW - I would love to see you add a Mobilinc Glance on Apple Watch that shows "Near Me". I have a Foscam 18918w pointed at my garage door and apparently it's too slow for my Apple Watch to grab an image in enough time to add an image to the notification. I might tinker with different settings on my camera to see if there's a way it can shove the picture quicker to Mobilinc. I've tested Mobilinc with my Geohopper iBeacon and it seems fairly responsive. I have it turn on a lamp when I go downstairs on my way to the laundry room and it turns off when I head back upstairs. Very nice feature. It would be handier if Apple Watch could achieve this without the need to carry my iPhone, especially since it can use WiFi to communicate (or so I've read). I added my place of work as an additional Geo-Fence, so far I only have it set to notify me when I enter and leave my defined work radius. Works as advertised. Keep up the good work and keep the beta's coming! Phil
InsteonNut Posted July 28, 2015 Author Posted July 28, 2015 Thanks Phil for the feedback! Comments: Sometimes when I leave the Mobilinc running as my foreground app on Apple Watch, when I activate the screen again it tells me it can't connect to Mobilinc on the iPhone. It doesn't seem to happen if I tap the digital crown when I'm done looking at it, this brings the clock back to the foreground, then I can launch Mobilinc again with no issues. What's happening is that with the app active on the watch, MobiLinc on the phone will try to stay connected to the ISY. If MobiLinc gets dropped due to the phone being put into a pocket or other data connection issue, then an error will get flowed up to the watch the next time you activate the app. I may see about silencing the error messages if the watch app isn't active. I'll play with this and see if it makes sense. BTW - I would love to see you add a Mobilinc Glance on Apple Watch that shows "Near Me". Possible to add, but it wouldn't be interactive. That's a limitation to the Glance. So it could show you the Near Me items, tapping would launch the watch app. For the camera, make sure you can see a live feed from your camera on the multi-camera view in the main MobiLinc app. If that works, you should be able to receive your camera image in watch notification. Definitely try this while on WiFi so you know it'll work. I've tested Mobilinc with my Geohopper iBeacon and it seems fairly responsive. I have it turn on a lamp when I go downstairs on my way to the laundry room and it turns off when I head back upstairs. Very nice feature. It would be handier if Apple Watch could achieve this without the need to carry my iPhone, especially since it can use WiFi to communicate (or so I've read). Great! Glad iBeacons are working great for you. Yes, having the watch trigger iBeacons make a lot more sense. Unfortunately Apple hasn't added this to the watch in 1.0 nor have they added this to watch2.0 (at least yet). Thanks Phil! Wes
MFBra Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Wes, Initial beacon setup was ok but not sure what happened that one of the 3 beacon configuration i'm testing stayed the whole day reporting as INSIDE even when as I was out of range (at work). After returning home I was trying to fix it and prior to delete that beacon from MLHD i decided to edit the configuration for that beacon, turning off and on the update to variable, what fixed the issue and it started to report correctly. I've been testing the widget screen configured based on which beacon is in range and so far it works pretty well, it's more a matter of tuning the right power level and right physical position of the beacons. hopefully the good graphic of icons will be ported to ipad version also. I noticed that i'm not able to test it on ipad as it presents the invitation as "already taken" in test flight, if there are some "available tickets" please let me know. not sure if you want to receive comments on the pricing for each module... :^( (i know, not funny)
kevkmartin Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 I confirmed that Mobilinc 4.5 beta AND current release versions will work WITHOUT Touch ID enabled, but will go to black screen / confirmation loop with Touch ID enabled. Definitely an issue of some kind with IOS 9.0b4. Touch ID was working fine with IOS 9.0b3
kevkmartin Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Also confirmed that tapping the IO Link Sensor on phone or watch will activate IO Link Relay for garage door operation. I can not get the voice commands "Open Garage Door" or "Close Garage Door" to work.
InsteonNut Posted July 28, 2015 Author Posted July 28, 2015 Hi MFBra, Feel free to send me direct feedback on In-app prices to support@mobilinc.com or via PM. Pricing isn't set in stone, but has been carefully considered. Initial beacon setup was ok but not sure what happened that one of the 3 beacon configuration i'm testing stayed the whole day reporting as INSIDE even when as I was out of range (at work). I've seen this happen before, but haven't been able to reproduce it. If it happens again or you can reproduce the issue, please let me know. I actually suspect iOS isn't telling MobiLinc about the change in rare cases, but I can't reproduce to prove it. After returning home I was trying to fix it and prior to delete that beacon from MLHD i decided to edit the configuration for that beacon, turning off and on the update to variable, what fixed the issue and it started to report correctly. When I've seen this, moving in and out of the region snaps it back into place. The variable update *shouldn't* have any impact on iOS's ability to tell MobiLinc about the region status. I noticed that i'm not able to test it on ipad as it presents the invitation as "already taken" in test flight, if there are some "available tickets" please let me know. I think all you need to do is open TestFlight on the iPad and install it. You just need to use the same iTunes account as your iPhone. Wes
InsteonNut Posted July 28, 2015 Author Posted July 28, 2015 Thanks kevkmartin, Definitely an issue of some kind with IOS 9.0b4. Touch ID was working fine with IOS 9.0b3 One reason I'm not too excited about chasing OS beta bugs Might be fixed in 9.0b5. I can not get the voice commands "Open Garage Door" or "Close Garage Door" to work. Three things: 1. Do you have a voice prompt set? 2. What is the vocal name assigned to the IO Linc sensor? 3. Are you using Siri from the Apple Watch or MobiLinc Voice input? Wes
philtor Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Possible to add, but it wouldn't be interactive. That's a limitation to the Glance. So it could show you the Near Me items, tapping would launch the watch app. That would be a nice option and that could potentially reduce the time needed to access Mobilinc. As you may already know, currently, some of Apple's built in Glance's are interactive, such as Music and Power Reserve. Hopefully, when watchOS 2 is released you can make the Mobilinc Glance interactive too. For the camera, make sure you can see a live feed from your camera on the multi-camera view in the main MobiLinc app. If that works, you should be able to receive your camera image in watch notification. Definitely try this while on WiFi so you know it'll work. Unfortunately, on the main Mobilinc app the camera is sluggish to connect and display the video stream on WiFi and 4G. For some reason the camera connects and streams noticeably quicker on some of the other apps on my iPhone, probably 3 or more times quicker. I have a new Foscam HD with h264 support on the way. Maybe I'll have better luck with that. Phil
InsteonNut Posted July 28, 2015 Author Posted July 28, 2015 Hi Phil, Hopefully, when watchOS 2 is released you can make the Mobilinc Glance interactive too. I'll have to investigate this when updating the app for WatchOS2. Unfortunately, on the main Mobilinc app the camera is sluggish to connect and display the video stream on WiFi and 4G Support for this is a little off topic for this forum post. Shoot me an email to support@mobilinc.com and let me know what camera type and profiles (Jpeg/Mjpeg/RTSP) you have setup in MobiLinc so I can give you some troubleshooting tips to look at. There are options here to try. Wes
kevkmartin Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Thanks kevkmartin, One reason I'm not too excited about chasing OS beta bugs Might be fixed in 9.0b5. Three things: 1. Do you have a voice prompt set? Yes I do. 2. What is the vocal name assigned to the IO Linc sensor? Garage Door 3. Are you using Siri from the Apple Watch or MobiLinc Voice input? I've tried both. I actually Cant get Siri on the watch to do anything with Mobilinc. I tried "turn on garage light" - which worked using the mic icon in Mobilinc. But using Siri on the watch offered me "handoff" to the phone, on which Siri said "I don't see anything connected". Wes
InsteonNut Posted July 28, 2015 Author Posted July 28, 2015 Hi kevkmartin, You need to tap the mic icon in the MobiLinc app on the watch. All of us devs wish Apple would open up direct Siri access, but Apple has not supported that 3rd party app interaction yet. The best we can do is prompt for Siri input inside of the MobiLinc watch app by tapping the mic icon to then handoff your voice command to the voice processing engine in the main MobiLinc app. Wes
sumguy Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Kevkmartin, I am also running iOS 9.0 b4 and am not able to get the today view widget to work? Are you also having this issue? Just trying to determine if it is the beta or something isolated to my phone.
kevkmartin Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Kevkmartin, I am also running iOS 9.0 b4 and am not able to get the today view widget to work? Are you also having this issue? Just trying to determine if it is the beta or something isolated to my phone.i just checked it; no, it doesn't work. It only ever says "Unable to Load". Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
elvisimprsntr Posted July 28, 2015 Posted July 28, 2015 Wes, Things seem to be working much better today, but I did spend a few minutes with garage door open while moving trash to curb. As you can see from the screen cap I crossed my 200m geofence 4 minutes after the last beacon state variable update. Hopefully I will get similar results during a normal departure. 1. Moved beacons to opposite side of house from garage 2. I optimized the TX power for detection of beacons while inside home in any phone orientation vs in garage or on driveway. Ended up with TX power of 5 out of 15 (50%).
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