keribi Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 I have a strange problem and wondered if anyone else noticed this? I have a program that turns several lights on at sunset each day. When the program is initiated by the isy a few lights fail to turn on. This failure occurs about 50% of the time and is not always the same devices, seems to be random. The strange thing is that when I run the "then" command from my Andriod device running mobilinc all the devices turn on, even the ones that failed when the isy triggers the program. I have good comm through my entire house and never have any comm issue. What might cause this inconsistency? Should not make a difference what triggers the program! ISY994i v4.3.26
Techman Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 What type of bulbs are you using, CFL, LED or Incandescent? Some bulbs can create noise, such as CFL's, on the powerline which could interfere with the signals reaching the other devices. You might want to also check the link tables/compare in the devices that you're having a problem with.
MWareman Posted November 16, 2015 Posted November 16, 2015 I have a program that turns several lights on at sunset each day. Is the program individually turning on multiple devices on after the other, or are the devices in a scene and the program is triggering the scene? Or some hybrid (program turning on several scenes, each scene with one or more members)?
keribi Posted November 16, 2015 Author Posted November 16, 2015 (edited) The devices are turned on one after the other a couple of scenes are in the program. Like i said the program works fine when triggering the "then " from my mobile device "Mobilinc" or from the admin console on a PC.device. The problem lies when the program is triggered by the isy itself! I am using mostly LED bulbs. Edited November 16, 2015 by keribi
Techman Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 I am using mostly LED bulbs. It could be a timing issue. What type of bulbs are you using other than LED's? Can you post a copy of the program you're using to turn on the lights
LeeG Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 When you post the Program are there other Programs that are triggered at the same time, something that would not happen when manually driving the Then.
stusviews Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Put all the device in the one scene as responders only (no controllers) and use the program to turn the scene on (and off, if desired).
keribi Posted November 17, 2015 Author Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Heres the program. I put in the delays to troubleshoot this issue. Evening Lighting ON - [iD 001E][Parent 0006] If Time is Sunset Then Set 'Kitchen Table Light' 100% Set 'Kitchen Under Cabinet Lights' 100% Set 'Kitchen Rope Lights' 50% Set 'Fireplace Recessed' 45% Set 'Kitchen Track Lights' 100% Set 'Family Room Table Lamp' On Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'Family Recessed' On Wait 2 seconds Set 'Living Room Switched Outlets' On Wait 2 seconds Set 'Living Room Floor Lamp' 50% Repeat 2 times Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') I may try creating a scene for all these devices to see if things are more stable! I have a few incandescent bulbs too. Edited November 17, 2015 by keribi
keribi Posted November 17, 2015 Author Posted November 17, 2015 I do have another program that triggers at sunset and it turns on a scene.
jerlands Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) So are these the lights that fail to turn on? Set Scene 'Family Recessed' On Wait 2 seconds Set 'Living Room Switched Outlets' On Wait 2 seconds Set 'Living Room Floor Lamp' 50% Repeat 2 times Wait causes re-evaluation of the condition. if time is no longer Sunset the program turns false and else is run Jon... Edited November 17, 2015 by jerlands
keribi Posted November 17, 2015 Author Posted November 17, 2015 It seems like the recessed lights fail more than the others. There are 3 devices with recessed cans with LED bulbs "Fireplace recessed" device 1 controlling 2 cans and the scene "family recessed" 2 devices each controlling 6 cans. all Switchlinc dimmers (May be the older switchlincs without dual band)
keribi Posted November 17, 2015 Author Posted November 17, 2015 No big deal if I cant figure this out. Just seems strange that when the program is triggered by Mobilinc all devices respond to commands. It could be some weird comm issue with some of the older devices but not sure.
jerlands Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 No big deal if I cant figure this out. Just seems strange that when the program is triggered by Mobilinc all devices respond to commands. It could be some weird comm issue with some of the older devices but not sure. The trigger in the program is "Sunset." if you run any other way I'm assuming then you're running "Then?" Jon...
stusviews Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Repeat needs to be earlier. Only statements that follow Repeat are repeated. But, Put all the device in the one scene as responders only (no controllers) and use the program to turn the scene on (and off, if desired).
keribi Posted November 17, 2015 Author Posted November 17, 2015 Thanks for the heads up on the repeat command I will move it up in the program to maybe improve reliability.
keribi Posted November 17, 2015 Author Posted November 17, 2015 Yes I run the "then" from my andriod device or from the admin console. So the reliability issue is with the sunset trigger? Like i said this usually happens a couple days a week.
jerlands Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Yes I run the "then" from my andriod device or from the admin console. So the reliability issue is with the sunset trigger? Like i said this usually happens a couple days a week. The problem is using "Wait" in relation to the condition which is Sunset. I'm uncertain if you extend the period to include some time after sunset it would make a difference or.. just remove wait... or follow Stu's advice Jon... Edited November 17, 2015 by jerlands
Techman Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Yes I run the "then" from my andriod device or from the admin console. So the reliability issue is with the sunset trigger? Like i said this usually happens a couple days a week. Put all your lights into one scene Trigger the scene at Sunset +2 minutes eliminate the repeat and the waits and you should be good to go.....
stusviews Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Is you have more that one program that's triggered for the sam time, then stagger the trigger time.
keribi Posted November 23, 2015 Author Posted November 23, 2015 Thanks for all the help! I staggered the sunset trigger and corrected the "repeat" incorrect usage and everything is working great!
stusviews Posted November 23, 2015 Posted November 23, 2015 Glad that worked for you. Glad you caught my typo. I'm constantly mistyping if, it, and is
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