greensha Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 Hi All, I have an Outletlinc (2472D v.44) that I have manually linked to button B of a KPL (2334-2 v.43). When I say manually, I mean that I held the KPL button B down until the beep and then pressed the set button on the Outletlinc. The link was successful in that I can now control the Outletlinc from the KPL. However, I cannot get the ramp rate to work when pressing the KPL button. The Outletlinc switches off and on almost instantaneously rather than using the ramp rate that was programmed both locally, by setting the on level to 5% and double setting the set button and also by setting the ramp rate on the ISY. The ramp rate was set on the device and and on the scenes created by the ISY when I manually linked the two devices. I've tried adjusting the ramp rates back and forth to see if rewriting the values helps, but it has no effect. Is it possible to do what I am trying to do, or am I missing something basic. Thanks! Andy
mwester Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 Why not just create the scene on the ISY, and set the ramp rate there? That'll not only be easier, but it avoids confusing the ISY (because it won't know about the links you've manually created).
greensha Posted January 1, 2016 Author Posted January 1, 2016 Why not just create the scene on the ISY, and set the ramp rate there? That'll not only be easier, but it avoids confusing the ISY (because it won't know about the links you've manually created). I did (actually, it was created automatically by the ISY) and the ramp rates are set there too. I also tried creating a program to respond to the button push, all with the same result.
stusviews Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 If you set the ramp rate to 9 min, then the actual ramp rate is 0.1 sec. That's because the maximum ramp rate for Insteon devices is 8 min, not 9. The 9 min ramp rate is included because the very earliest Insteon dimmers did have that ability.
greensha Posted January 1, 2016 Author Posted January 1, 2016 If you set the ramp rate to 9 min, then the actual ramp rate is 0.1 sec. That's because the maximum ramp rate for Insteon devices is 8 min, not 9. The 9 min ramp rate is included because the very earliest Insteon dimmers did have that ability. The ramp rate is set to 8.5 seconds. It's set locally and in the scenes.
stusviews Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 If you set the ramp rate to 9 min, then the actual ramp rate is 0.1 sec. That's because the maximum ramp rate for Insteon devices is 8 min, not 9. The 9 min ramp rate is included because the very earliest Insteon dimmers did have that ability.
greensha Posted January 1, 2016 Author Posted January 1, 2016 The ramp rate is set to 8.5 seconds. It's set locally and in the scenes.
Techman Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 Andy, The problem could be that the devices are manually linked directly with one another and not through the ISY. They should be factory reset then each linked via the ISY link management.
LeeG Posted January 1, 2016 Posted January 1, 2016 (edited) greensha When the KPL button and OutletLinc were manually linked the ISY has been out of the picture. The Responder link in the OutletLinc that has the OutletLinc Responder On Level and Responder Ramp Rate is not known to the ISY, cannot be changed by the ISY. NEVER manually link devices when using an ISY. The KPL and OutletLinc need to be Factory Reset and a Restore Device issued for both devices. When the Scene between the KPL button and OutletLinc is created by the ISY, set the Responder On Level and Responder Ramp Rate. The Local On Level and Local Ramp Rate do not control the manual link and do not control an ISY Scene. Again, these values cannot be set for the manual link as the ISY has no knowledge of the manual link. That is why the devices must be cleared and restored first. Edited January 1, 2016 by LeeG
greensha Posted January 1, 2016 Author Posted January 1, 2016 Thanks guys! I did a factory reset on both devices and restored them and now they work perfectly. I learned something about scenes today. I've always had all the devices in my scenes set as responders because I never really knew why I would make a device a controller (I've always used programs to detect button presses and control scenes that way). This is going to make some of my other Insteon pairings a little easier to control now. Thanks again!
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