ldrinc Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Can someone help me understand what the grayed out symbol means in the image attached?
stusviews Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Nothing attached. Where are you seeing the grayed out symbol?
ldrinc Posted March 9, 2016 Author Posted March 9, 2016 Sorry about that. Took me awhile to figure out how to correctly add an attachment.
jerlands Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 I think it means the writes timed out. If you right click and select "write updates" then activate the sensor it should complete. Did you make changes or something to cause the updates? Jon...
jerlands Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 If you have pro you should see an icon upper toolbar left side last "include battery powered devices." this should be active Jon...
ldrinc Posted March 9, 2016 Author Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) Yes, I made a few changes to the door sensor, remotely. I have this sensor installed in my vacation home. So, if I am understanding your logic, unless the door is opened between now and the time I get there to manually trigger the door sensor, then the status will remain grayed out. Correct? Is there a way to trigger the sensor that's waiting for the updates remotely so that the updates to the device will execute sooner rather than later? dl Edited March 9, 2016 by ldrinc
Teken Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Yes, I made a few changes to the door sensor, remotely. I have this sensor installed in my vacation home. So, if I am understanding your logic, unless the door is opened between now and the time I get there to manually trigger the door sensor, then the status will remain grayed out. Correct? Is there a way to trigger the sensor that's waiting for the updates remotely so that the updates to the device will execute sooner rather than later? dl You can create a program to monitor the heart beat interval. Once that heart beat is seen the (THEN) clause can be selected to do a remote write to the device. Keeping in mind this has no relations to (IF) you disabled the battery write option. Meaning if you selected the 1011 icon at the top you need to disable it so the system *will* be able to complete the task.
ScottAvery Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 I didn't know you could write to a battery device without pushing the button. Does this trick only work for a sensor? It would be nice to write to a missing mini remote.
ldrinc Posted March 9, 2016 Author Posted March 9, 2016 Not seeing the 1011 icon. It does not appear in the tool bar. I am running the latest version of the UI and Firmware. I also have a pro
Teken Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 I didn't know you could write to a battery device without pushing the button. Does this trick only work for a sensor? It would be nice to write to a missing mini remote. Hello ScottAvery, Since the introduction of 4.XX firmware the remote write has been made available which was present in Smartlabs House Linc (HL2) software for the Insteon Motion Sensor (MS). The MS in general terms works by the sensed motion and forcing the device to stay awake. When that window is open any pending writes will be pushed to the device. Devices which have the *Heart Beat* function can also be used in a similar fashion. The battery operated remotes need you to press the set button as there is no motion sensor or heart beat.
Teken Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Not seeing the 1011 icon. It does not appear in the tool bar. I am running the latest version of the UI and Firmware. I also have a pro A screen capture of your Admin Console would offer more insight along with the Help -> About. Please remove the UUID & IP Address from the *About* prior to loading the image to the forums though.
ldrinc Posted March 9, 2016 Author Posted March 9, 2016 My bad... just realized that the isy in my vacation home is not a pro model. Any other workaround?
Teken Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Here is a screenshot of both. Your controller is NOT a pro and hence why the battery delay write is not present. Since the grayed out option is still present its more than likely a failed write still pending.
Teken Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 My bad... just realized that the isy in my vacation home is not a pro model. Any other workaround? As I indicated above create a program to monitor the *Heart Beat* 24 hour check in. Once its seen you can have the write update initialized keeping in mind you will need to play with the (wait) duration. As some hardware / firmware revisions of battery operated devices either required no wait to (up to) 3 seconds.
Teken Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) For the benefit of others here is an example of the *Write Device Update* with the wait duration in place. As noted above not all battery operated devices require the wait duration (0-3 seconds) so test and validate what operates in your own environment. Note also you should monitor both On-Off Heart Beat functions as some devices like the Leak Sensor send a (Off) heart beat for what ever stupid reason. New Program - [iD 02D2][Parent 02D1] If Status 'LS - Media Room-Dry / LS - Media Room-Heartbeat' is On Or Status 'LS - Media Room-Dry / LS - Media Room-Heartbeat' is Off Then Wait 1 second Set 'LS - Media Room-Dry' Write Device Updates Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Edited March 9, 2016 by Teken
Teken Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Thanks Teken, I will give it a try shortly. Please do follow up with the group regardless of success / failure.
ldrinc Posted March 9, 2016 Author Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) After running the program I got the follow messages. I'm guessing that I may have to physically activate the sensor in order for the isy to recognize it again. Edited March 9, 2016 by ldrinc
Xathros Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 (edited) You don't run the program. Instead, you wait for it to run by being triggered via the sensor's heartbeat which should come sometime within the next 24 hr period. At that point, the program will attempt to write changes to the sensor while it is awake for the heartbeat transaction. -Xathros Edited March 9, 2016 by Xathros
ldrinc Posted March 9, 2016 Author Posted March 9, 2016 ok, got it. will report back sometime tomorrow. Thanks for the help.....
Teken Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 ok, got it. will report back sometime tomorrow. Thanks for the help..... I just wanted to add some clarity to this in case some of the basic's were missed. 1. Do you have a solid Insteon network in that home which has proven RF signaling near by the sensor(s)? 2. Do you monitor the *Heat Beat* interval using Belias check program? 3. Both of the above are mandatory to ensure the expected results for the remote write device update to happen.
ldrinc Posted March 10, 2016 Author Posted March 10, 2016 Teken, Answers to your question are: 1. If you are referring to a dual band Insteon device... The answer is yes. There is a dimmer switch located near the doors where the sensors are. 2. Not sure where to find the Belias check program. However, if you are referring to the program that was recommended in the previous thread then the answer is yes.
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