IVB Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 Pre-ordered a Six-pack of white last night; estimated arrival is 10/25, so the pre-order numbers must be substantial. It would be nice to mix and match colors in the pack; 4 black, 2 white. After all, the order can always be cancelled before it ships (yeah, right). Mark Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Clearly time for another animated gif Quote Link to comment
kgividen Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Pre-ordered a Six-pack of white last night; estimated arrival is 10/25, so the pre-order numbers must be substantial. It would be nice to mix and match colors in the pack; 4 black, 2 white. After all, the order can always be cancelled before it ships (yeah, right). Mark Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk FYI I was able to mix and match white and black. I got three of each the put the code in to get the discount. It was a little wonky but it worked. You could probably still cancel and do that if you wanted. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
kgividen Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Just to clarify. Has anyone been able to use dots/Echos in say 8 separate rooms and just say lights on in each room and it will only turn the lights on in that specific room? Without using separate Amazon and portal accounts? Seems like the whole unique ID thing someone suggested would be needed for that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
kgividen Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Just to clarify. Has anyone been able to use dots/Echos in say 8 separate rooms and just say lights on in each room and it will only turn the lights on in that specific room? Without using separate Amazon and portal accounts? Seems like the whole unique ID thing someone suggested would be needed for that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Doh...never mind...guess not...found this post on this: http://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/19544-2-echo-dots-w-1-isy-in-2-rooms/ Quote Link to comment
TheFallenAngel Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 (edited) Just to clarify. Has anyone been able to use dots/Echos in say 8 separate rooms and just say lights on in each room and it will only turn the lights on in that specific room? Without using separate Amazon and portal accounts? Seems like the whole unique ID thing someone suggested would be needed for that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes of course but for that each of them should have separate Amazon account and be added to a separate ISY Portal sub-account. Cheers, Alex Edited September 20, 2016 by TheFallenAngel Quote Link to comment
kgividen Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Yes of course but fir that each of them should have separate Amazon account and be added to a separate ISY Portal sub-account. Cheers, Alex Yea, I got that you can do it with separate Amazon accounts. But with 3 echos and 6 dots that's a lot of work and/or not possible to have that many accounts. As was stated earlier an uniqueID per device would eliminate the need for all the crazy. Quote Link to comment
stusviews Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Just to clarify. Has anyone been able to use dots/Echos in say 8 separate rooms and just say lights on in each room and it will only turn the lights on in that specific room? Without using separate Amazon and portal accounts? Seems like the whole unique ID thing someone suggested would be needed for that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yes of course but fir that each of them should have separate Amazon account and be added to a separate ISY Portal sub-account. Cheers, Alex Not possible at this time. The portal is limited to a total of 5 accounts. I don't know it that can be accomplished with two portal accounts. Quote Link to comment
giomania Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Not possible at this time. The portal is limited to a total of 5 accounts. I don't know it that can be accomplished with two portal accounts. Hoping that Amazon fixes this now that they are selling packs of Dots! Mark Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
giomania Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 FYI I was able to mix and match white and black. I got three of each the put the code in to get the discount. It was a little wonky but it worked. You could probably still cancel and do that if you wanted. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I ordered via the dot to get the $10 shopping credit so I'm not sure if I can do that. Maybe if I call Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
Teken Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Clearly time for another animated gif LMAO . . . Quote Link to comment
larryllix Posted September 20, 2016 Share Posted September 20, 2016 Just pre-ordered 4 Black and 2 white Echo Dots. Christmas gifts for kids and 6 year olf granddaughter. She was emphatuated with our Echo, messing up our shopping lists, and constantly playing kids music exerpts! These things are also great for kids going to school to check their math and other learning interests, like geography and science. Quote Link to comment
gweempose Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 It is my understanding that ESP (echo spatial perception) has now been enabled. Has anyone messed around with this yet? Does this potentially eliminate the need for multiple accounts? Quote Link to comment
bernieb Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I am wondering the same, can all these Dots used the same account as my Echo? I haven't seen anything yet that states that it would or would not. I am just waiting on confirmation before I pull the trigger on some. Anyone knows? Quote Link to comment
stusviews Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 The new protocol does not eliminate the need for multiple accounts if you want the same spoken to have different results in different locations. It does eliminate the need to give the Echos different wake words if they're within earshot of each other. For example. I have two Echos in the bedroom that control the same devices/scenes/programs. If they have the same wake word. one repeats the response as an echo. That won't happen anymore. But, I still need different accounts to allow Alexa to "turn on the light" in different rooms without specifying which light. Quote Link to comment
bernieb Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 Thanks Stu ... at this point this is a deal breaker for me, I just don't want to have 6 Amazon accounts just to manage these Dots. I am sure that in the future, they'll have a way around this. Quote Link to comment
TheFallenAngel Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 It is my understanding that ESP (echo spatial perception) has now been enabled. Has anyone messed around with this yet? Does this potentially eliminate the need for multiple accounts?I did few "tests" and not seeing it.. Cheers, Alex Quote Link to comment
G W Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 I have not seen new software yet. S.A.T.T.P. Best regards, Gary Funk Quote Link to comment
gweempose Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I did few "tests" and not seeing it.. I have not seen new software yet. Perhaps they haven't rolled out the update to the first generation devices yet. Quote Link to comment
gweempose Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 ... at this point this is a deal breaker for me, I just don't want to have 6 Amazon accounts just to manage these Dots. I am sure that in the future, they'll have a way around this. I know it bothers some people, but it's not that big of a deal just to say, "Turn on basement lights" or "Turn off master bedroom lights". Quote Link to comment
stusviews Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 It is a big deal if AI is to have intelligence. I don't ask my spouse to turn on the bedroom light if we're both in the bedroom, but I do if she's in the bedroom and I'm not. Quote Link to comment
fitzpatri8 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 The bigger problem I see is with guests. "Turn on the lights" is a common phrase if you are asking for help from someone standing near the switch, but Alexa and Siri both seem to interpret that as "Turn on *all* the lights, throughout the house". That's disappointing if someone is trying to sleep! Quote Link to comment
TheFallenAngel Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 The bigger problem I see is with guests. "Turn on the lights" is a common phrase if you are asking for help from someone standing near the switch, but Alexa and Siri both seem to interpret that as "Turn on *all* the lights, throughout the house". That's disappointing if someone is trying to sleep!No, Alexa doesn't interpret that at all. Alexa does exactly what it's programmed to do thought mapping the spoken words in the Portal. Cheers, Alex Quote Link to comment
larryllix Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) The bigger problem I see is with guests. "Turn on the lights" is a common phrase if you are asking for help from someone standing near the switch, but Alexa and Siri both seem to interpret that as "Turn on *all* the lights, throughout the house". That's disappointing if someone is trying to sleep!I have to agree with Alex (above). When I use Alexa, turn off all lights it turns off the lights in only that room (24 lights) That is the way I set it up, but I don't feel I have any use for Alexa in other rooms as far as HA goes. I am not going back to the clapper level for bedroom lights in the middle of the night, yelling Alexa, turn off the bedroom light. I want HA light control, not waking my spouse up by yelling or clapping. She may want some action and I am not bothering with that nonsense, when I am dreaming of a better class of people. Geeeesh! Edited October 13, 2016 by larryllix Quote Link to comment
stusviews Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 I don't feel I have any use for Alexa in other rooms as far as HA goes. I do feel the need to use Alexa in several rooms. I have several accounts so that we can use "natural speech" as much as possible in each room. Quote Link to comment
stusviews Posted October 15, 2016 Share Posted October 15, 2016 It is my understanding that ESP (echo spatial perception) has now been enabled. Has anyone messed around with this yet? Does this potentially eliminate the need for multiple accounts? ESP is enabled. Previously, it two Echos were in the same room with the same wake word, it was like an echo, both responded with a delay between responses. As a result each Echo in the same room needed a different wake word. Now all my Echos in the same room have a single wake word. Only one responds. I still need separate accounts and wake words for Echos within earshot of each other that control different scenes using the same spoken (e.g. light, fan, window covering). Quote Link to comment
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