Any real difference between these two keypads?

[Blackbird]

I was thinking of getting the m1kp2 that comes with the m1 gold kit but was wondering if there was much reason to get the MKP

 

M1KP2

https://www.aartech.ca/m1kp2-elk-m1kp2-flush-mountable-lcd-keypad.html

 

or this

 

M1KP

https://www.aartech.ca/m1kp-elk-m1kp-keypad-for-m1-gold-m1ez8.html

[rahnee]

The KP2 can be mounted in a recessed box and is a much cleaner look.  You just have to buy the recess box (ELK-M1BBK2).  It also doesn't have a door that you have to open and close to press buttons.  I've only ever installed the M1Kp2...

[Blackbird]

But do both have the same functions?

[shannong]

Same features and capabilities but the M1KP has two more Function buttons mounted on the left side. (6 instead of 4)

 

The M1KP2 is less expensive, looks like it was made in this century, can be flush mounted, has no door, and has the much more clearly observable Ready(Green)/Armed(Red) backlit indicators showing system state.

[Blackbird]

Thanks

[Teken]

Regardless of what key pad you decide upon please consider installing one in the master bedroom. The most dangerous thing you can ever do is have only one keypad at the front entrance.

[MWareman]

I put a KP2 near the front and garage doors, and a mini keypad in the master bedroom. Best thing I ever did! It's easy to tell if you forgot to arm at high, for instance.

[Blackbird]

I put a KP2 near the front and garage doors, and a mini keypad in the master bedroom. Best thing I ever did! It's easy to tell if you forgot to arm at high, for instance.

Sounds like a good idea

[Scottmichaelj]

I put a KP2 near the front and garage doors, and a mini keypad in the master bedroom. Best thing I ever did! It's easy to tell if you forgot to arm at high, for instance.

I put the small single gang keypad in my bedroom too. Love that you can turn OFF the lit leds too!

[blueman2]

The one advantage of the original KP is that it includes a temperatures sensor. KP2 does not.  

[blueman2]

I put a KP2 near the front and garage doors, and a mini keypad in the master bedroom. Best thing I ever did! It's easy to tell if you forgot to arm at high, for instance.

 

I did sort of the same thing, but a full KP2 in MBR and entry from Garage, and a mini at the front door.  I wanted a full KP in MBR for the readout.  

[Scottmichaelj]

I did sort of the same thing, but a full KP2 in MBR and entry from Garage, and a mini at the front door. I wanted a full KP in MBR for the readout.

My front door is glass so I wanted the KP2 keypad lit and visible. So then if someone is scoping things out they see the alarm keypad lit red for armed. Also if someone knocks on the door to scope you out pretending to sell magazine subs or a sub contractor does work theres a clear presence pf an alarm system. The appearance that the house is a hassle in my opinion is half the battle. Hopefully would be burglars will just pass me by and steal from my neighbor. For the garage and bedroom just wanted simple control and warnings only to show without a light-show keeping me up at night.

[G W]

This is what I put in my bedroom.

 

 

Short and to the point.

Best regards,

Gary Funk

[Blackbird]

This is what I put in my bedroom.

Short and to the point.

Best regards,

Gary Funk

Nice idea.

[blueman2]

This is what I put in my bedroom.

 

 

Short and to the point.

Best regards,

Gary Funk

 

But this does not meet code.  You cannot combine 120V and low voltage in 1 box.  I recommend buying a spacer (about 50 cents) that inserts between the 120V and the low voltage.  In most areas, that is OK for code.  

[Blackbird]

But this does not meet code. You cannot combine 120V and low voltage in 1 box. I recommend buying a spacer (about 50 cents) that inserts between the 120V and the low voltage. In most areas, that is OK for code.

 

Those should all be 120 or is the Elk low voltage?

[blueman2]

My front door setup.  I originally had my mini keypay in the same box as my KPLs, but it failed code.  Moved it on its own box.  

 

[G W]

My front door setup. I originally had my mini keypay in the same box as my KPLs, but it failed code. Moved it on its own box.

 

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The Elk is low voltage and there is an insulator in the box. Geez, everyone wants to be a nanny.

 

Best regards,

Gary Funk

[Blackbird]

Nice keypad but it appears to only be about $40 less than the full panel

[G W]

Nice keypad but it appears to only be about $40 less than the full panel

I don't need a full keypad in the bedroom and I had room for the small keypad. So I added it for convenience.

 

I will put full keypads by the main doors to the house.

 

Best regards,

Gary Funk

[blueman2]

The Elk is low voltage and there is an insulator in the box. Geez, everyone wants to be a nanny.

 

Best regards,

Gary Funk

And put the covers back on.  And don't hold a glass of liquid near that either.  

 

 

As for the cost, that was never an issue for me.  I just wanted a more simple keypad at my front door.  More subtle.  I would have paid for if needed.  

[Blackbird]

How many wires would be used for that keypad and what gauge?

[G W]

How many wires would be used for that keypad and what gauge?

The Elk uses a 4-wire bus. I use cat5 Ethernet cable.

 

Short and to the point.

Best regards,

Gary Funk

[Blackbird]

Thanks

[Scottmichaelj]

My front door setup. I originally had my mini keypay in the same box as my KPLs, but it failed code. Moved it on its own box.

 

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Good god man fix your screws! #OCD