Inovelli - Product Ideas & Suggestions

[io_guy]

I don't see the central scene command class listed in the Z-Wave Alliance product page. It's needed for instant status, maybe they've updated the firmware since.

 

How deep are these switches compared to the HS?

[asbril]

I don't see the central scene command class listed in the Z-Wave Alliance product page. It's needed for instant status, maybe they've updated the firmware since.

 

How deep are these switches compared to the HS?

Maybe I did not explain properly. The Inovelli switch is similar in size as the HS switch. However, for a 3-way setup, you do not need a special companion switch on the other end but you can use the regular on/off switch that you have already. 

 

The regular on/off should be connected with a Neutral and 1 Traveler wire. In case that you have no Neutral at the regular switch, you should be able to bring Neutral by using one of the 2 Traveler wires that standard old 3-ways have. A 4-way setup needs an additional wire.

 

In other words to address your specific question, the Inovelli switch itself is not smaller in size than the HS but the regular (non home automation) switch that you have on the other end of the 3-way is of course much smaller.

[MWareman]

In multi way setups, is it possible to dim the light at all (assuming the main device is a dimmer), or do the remote switches only control on and off?

[asbril]

In multi way setups, is it possible to dim the light at all (assuming the main device is a dimmer), or do the remote switches only control on and off?

Good question MWareman, the Inoveli specifications indicate that this setup does NOT work for Dimmer switches.

[MWareman]

Good question MWareman, the Inoveli specifications indicate that this setup does NOT work for Dimmer switches.

Ouch. I knew there was an issue buried somewhere... seemed too good to be true!

[io_guy]

Asbril,

You were clear. My question was not related.

 

I was just looking for info the switch. The HS is too deep for me to put everywhere in my house. Was hoping the inovelli was a wee bit thinner.

 

The 2477s are much thinner.

[asbril]

Asbril,

You were clear. My question was not related.

 

I was just looking for info the switch. The HS is too deep for me to put everywhere in my house. Was hoping the inovelli was a wee bit thinner.

 

The 2477s are much thinner.

Understood.

[nadler]

I just wanted to add my 2 cents regarding Inovelli.  I purchased a Inovelli 2 way 2channel plug to use as a repeater in my garage.  Other than a Smarthing Hub and a schlage lock no other Zwave (loads of Insteon with ISY though).  I tTHOUGHT it didn't work and emailed the company. Within minutes a got a response along with a promise to send a replacement.  Well, Eric sent 2 replacements and everything was plugged in and all three Inovelli devices are working perfectly.  I just wanted to give a shout out to Eric for his great customer service work and his great product.  I think we all should support companies like this.

Soon I will get the zwave board for ISY but I wanted to try out zwave first before I mucked with a extremely stable ISY setup.

Noel

[asbril]

1 hour ago, nadler said:

I just wanted to add my 2 cents regarding Inovelli.  I purchased a Inovelli 2 way 2channel plug to use as a repeater in my garage.  Other than a Smarthing Hub and a schlage lock no other Zwave (loads of Insteon with ISY though).  I tTHOUGHT it didn't work and emailed the company. Within minutes a got a response along with a promise to send a replacement.  Well, Eric sent 2 replacements and everything was plugged in and all three Inovelli devices are working perfectly.  I just wanted to give a shout out to Eric for his great customer service work and his great product.  I think we all should support companies like this.

Soon I will get the zwave board for ISY but I wanted to try out zwave first before I mucked with a extremely stable ISY setup.

Noel

My experience with Inovelli products and customer service is same as yours. I am also encouraged by their upcoming line of new products, some of which will be similar to Insteon products currently not existing in Zwave.

[asbril]

On 11/13/2017 at 12:10 AM, Eric_Inovelli said:

Awesome! I know I'm biased, but I use the 2-Channel for my Christmas tree lights every year.

 

In addition, we'll be launching an outdoor version this week and next (1-Channel arrives this Wednesday and 2-Channel will be live in a couple weeks) which is super exciting as we'll all be hanging our outdoor lights around Thanksgiving.

 

Anyway, thanks so much for your support

Eric,  I like your products and your innovative approach. Several of us in this forum have given your products positive reviews. It would be nice when marketing your devices if you would include ISY among the compatible hubs and not just "   SmartThings, Wink Compatible | Inovelli " , as for instance on Amazon and (I believe) on your website.

[asbril]

On 11/5/2017 at 5:50 PM, Eric_Inovelli said:

Good evening,

 

First, wow... thank you so much for the warm welcome! I honestly can't say thank you enough -- everyone has been so kind to me in this forum! I came here simply to just monitor whether or not people were having any issues with our products and have since been overwhelmed with the positivity and passion you all possess. It's actually quite exciting and refreshing as I don't always experience that in other communities. So, thank you!

 

With that said, let me give you all a quick background on us and our story so you can get a better idea on us, what we stand for and what we're looking forward to in terms of Home Automation. Hopefully it doesn't bore you all, but at least it will help ground us all as a team.

 

Quick Background on Myself (Eric)

Currently, I live in Kalamazoo, MI (although, it's about this time every year where I'd like to live somewhere else due to the impending snow) and have enjoyed home automation for about 3 years now (I know, I'm a rookie compared to some of you -- but hey, we have to start somewhere). It really started when I was vacationing in Florida over the holiday's and I thought there had to be a way to control my furnace from down there as I was wasting a ton of energy keeping the house warm (so, I think we come from a similar energy management @Teken). Enter Nest -- my first smart home product. 

 

From there, I became intrigued on what else was possible in the HA realm and started tinkering with various products and before I knew it, I had an entire "smart" house. I put smart in quotes because half the time it was dumber than it was prior to installing those bulbs/sockets/switches, etc. But I didn't care if it worked or didn't work -- it was just cool to be able to remotely control things. I don't know, it brought out the inner kid in me.

 

How Inovelli Formed

I was actually working on an MBA course where we had to create a marketing plan for a company (could be existing or new) and I chose one of the smart home companies that already existed. After all was said and done and I finished my project, I thought, "you know, this could be something I could actually do myself - I enjoy home automation and I enjoy marketing, I bet I could do this!"

 

The goal of Inovelli when we formed it was and still is to provide the best products, at the best prices, with the best customer service. Yes, I know all companies say that, but the thing is, I'm a smart home user too. I know the astronomical prices I paid for a smart switch (I'm looking at you Quirky Tapt -- RIP) and what they actually cost. I remember opening up, "instructions" for these devices and then spending hours upon hours in various forums and Facebook groups trying to figure out how to get them to work, only to realize that the device didn't have that capability, or it was a different protocol than I needed, etc.

 

So, I'll stop rambling, but I try to put myself back in those shoes I was in when I started and structure my products in a way that can be easily installed, and also offer the best firmware I can based on realtime feedback (I don't purchase 50,000 units like the big guys, so I can typically upgrade my firmware offering quickly if there's no OTA available) and also try to answer my emails as fast as possible as I know the level of frustration there is when your smart home products aren't operating as they should (again, thanks Tapt switches).

 

What I'm Excited About

Honestly, we just brought on one of the smartest engineers out there when it comes to Z-Wave and he has already done some amazing work on the products that have been in market as well as the ones coming out. He understands what can and cannot be done and is able to take feedback and explain it to the product engineers who are actually making these things. It's really exciting to be able to take our products to the next level. I don't see very many truly customizable products out there, so I'm grateful this will be an opportunity area, especially for you all who have a platform where these customizations can be fully utilized.

 

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Ok, whew -- my fingers are exhausted from all that typing. I'll respond to these requests as I can -- please note that I will definitely take them to heart and will pass them on to the engineers. I may also reach out to you individually for further questions. My goal is to be as transparent as possible (without tipping off any competitors  ) but if you ever have any questions or builds on our products, I'm all ears!

 

Have a great night all and @Teken, I'll respond to your temperature suggestion shortly!

 

-Eric

Eric,  I like your products and your innovative approach. Several of us in this forum have given your products positive reviews. It would be nice when marketing your devices if you would include ISY among the compatible hubs and not just "   SmartThings, Wink Compatible | Inovelli " , as for instance on Amazon and (I believe) on your website.

[kohai]

They should make a Casablanca Intellitouch fan control zwave replacement.  There's got to be a ton of these out there and nobody makes one.

[asbril]

45 minutes ago, kohai said:

They should make a Casablanca Intellitouch fan control zwave replacement.  There's got to be a ton of these out there and nobody makes one.

I mentioned this to Eric several months ago and he thought that it was a good idea. It would be very good for Inovelli's reputation.

[asbril]

Something some may want to know.......  One of my Inovelli ON/OFF wall switches had stopped working, both manually and through ISY. It happened once before several months ago and on the advise of Inovelli I switched OFF the appropriate circuit on the circuit breaker and then ON again, and then the Inovelli switch works again. Knowing this keeps you from thinking that the switch must be replaced.

[FWORRELL]

Try working on your forum.  Is anyone moderating it?  I love the products, but the forum blows.

[trevorst]

On 1/24/2018 at 4:40 AM, asbril said:

Good question MWareman, the Inoveli specifications indicate that this setup does NOT work for Dimmer switches.

Are you saying that the inovelli dimmer will not function as a dimmer at all in a threeway setup?

[asbril]

2 hours ago, trevorst said:

Are you saying that the inovelli dimmer will not function as a dimmer at all in a threeway setup?

That is indeed what I believe to be the case.

[trevorst]

Then why build them with a traveler connection .

[asbril]

1 hour ago, trevorst said:

Then why build them with a traveler connection .

I am not the world's smartest techie and basically follow user manual instructions and/or info from this forum. I guess that the traveler is needed for the ON/OFF 3-way setup.

If you use Inoveli switches then I suggest that you go to the Inoveli website. They list setup instructions and they also have very good customer support.

[giesen]

The other comment I'd make after taking a brief gander at your website is to make sure you have an electronic (pdf) manual for all your products. Your manuals are printed from an electronic source, and I expect any product I buy these days to have pdf manuals available (I hate keeping track of paper manuals and they typically go straight into the recycle bin).

 

That and I find good documentation is usually the hallmark of a good product, and will typically read the manual of any product I buy to know if it's suitable for my application, if there are any gotchas I need to be aware, etc. No electronic manual = no purchase.

 

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[trevorst]

On 9/30/2018 at 2:10 PM, asbril said:

That is indeed what I believe to be the case.

Hi asbril,

Just wanted to let you know the inovelli dimmer works great on a threeway seup, just can’t dim from dumb switch, which is understandable. Can dim from the inovelli or ISY.

[marcin]

On ‎11‎/‎5‎/‎2017 at 6:25 PM, Teken said:

- Multi-Media Module (MMM): I can tell you with high confidence if you offer a module that can accept MP3, WAV, FLAC, etc that can be used as a Annunciator / Speaker / Alert Module. You will have a freaking gold mine that will forever keep on giving year over year. Take any siren, door chime, from Insteon / Aeotoc and expand on this basic concept.

I would love MMM and something similar to Insteon  KeyPad, but I would love blank buttons so I can engrave whatever scene I want. 

[asbril]

2 hours ago, trevorst said:

Hi asbril,

Just wanted to let you know the inovelli dimmer works great on a threeway seup, just can’t dim from dumb switch, which is understandable. Can dim from the inovelli or ISY.

Fantastic ! Thanks for letting me know.

[asbril]

Right now I am giving up on Inovelli wall switches. Ever since I got my new Zwave dongle and updated firmware to 5.0.13 (now 14), I have been unable to include or exclude Inovelli switches. Eric has been helpful with suggestions, but it has just been impossible. I liked these switches as in principle it allows to set up a 3-way using the plain old regular non Zwave switch as the secondary switch. (I have concrete wall with no space for a Zwave switch).

The Inovelli switch also freezes frequently and then I have to power cycle the fuse in the fusebox to unfreeze the switch.

I think that Inovelli is a great company but they must make their switches easier to add to ISY. Does anyone know of an alternative so that I can fit an auxiliary wall switch in a small switch box (in a concrete wall) ?

[asbril]

Inovelli is coming out with new switches, including with switches that reportedly work without Neutral (  https://inovelli.com/shop/smart-light-switches/pre-order-z-wave-dimmer-switch-no-neutral-required-scenes-notifications/  ).

I have had my ups and downs with Inovelli but give them credit for innovation and I pre-ordered one of their new switches.  I have one switch in my home where I am unable to get a Neutral wire and I am curious to see whether this new Inovelli switch will work.

Interestingly  their new ON/OFF switches require Neutral but their new DIMMER switches do not.

They also announce a  new FAN + LIGHT switch ( https://inovelli.com/zwave-switches/#scene-enabled).  As far as I know, this would be a first for Zwave.