chad.hyett Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 Had to synch all my modules due to a hub replacement and one of them was almost fried. It was hot to the touch when I opened the box. See the pic. Any idea what would cause this? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
mwester Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 What's the load, and is that the dimmer or the switch? The micro modules are very limited in type of load, as well as how much current said load can draw -- that looks like an overload to me. Replace it with an inlinelinc device, or change the load.
chad.hyett Posted January 4, 2019 Author Posted January 4, 2019 So this makes sense because this one is hooked up to a chandelier, which is the biggest lighting load in my house. The rest are hooked up to max 60-70 watts. The others are all fine. But the module is rated per Insteon for max load of 15 amps and the chandelier is on a 15 amp circuit along with other loads. So that circuit would trip well before the module reached its max load. It’s a dimmer module. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Brian H Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 The 2442-222 Dimmer Micro Module is 400 Watts incandescent loads. The 2443-222 On/Off module. Is 15 Amps 240VAC. Is the Load Incandescent or maybe dimmable LEDs?
chad.hyett Posted January 4, 2019 Author Posted January 4, 2019 There are a lot of candelabras up there so I may be over 400 watts. I’ll have to check. That said I just ordered the In Line module - easy enough because I can just put it in the attic box - and all LEDs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
paulbates Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 The inlinelinc dimmer is also spec'd at 400 watts. I don't think you'll get different results. The dimmer is hot because its overloaded. Also, LED's have a high inrush current when they are started. This needs to be factored in I have a number of inlinelincs installed 12 years ago for electronic low voltage lighting transformers. I limited the transformers i bought to be 25% less than the inlinelinc supported. I'm not certain how to set a limit in this case, but attaching LEDs with a load almost equal to, let alone over, the switches limit is not recommended Paul
chad.hyett Posted January 4, 2019 Author Posted January 4, 2019 The LEDs are 4.5 watts vs 60 watts on the current incandescents. As I type this I’m realizing that the current load with all those incandescents is almost certainly over 400 watts. Damn. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
paulbates Posted January 4, 2019 Posted January 4, 2019 I take it that dimming is a requirement? The relay version of insteon switches can handle a larger load. The high end of the spec for the 15 amp inlinlinc/micromodule is 1800watts. I would give it at least 25% breathing room and say 1300 watts ... but the calc has to include everything else on that 15A circuit - subtract all of that too. That's your total for chandelier, however you add up the bulbs. I have to guess that your chandelier with LEDS comes in under that. Especially since its a shared circuit on 15A, the argument can be made that it should be on its own circuit. Paul
chad.hyett Posted January 5, 2019 Author Posted January 5, 2019 I take it that dimming is a requirement? The relay version of insteon switches can handle a larger load. The high end of the spec for the 15 amp inlinlinc/micromodule is 1800watts. I would give it at least 25% breathing room and say 1300 watts ... but the calc has to include everything else on that 15A circuit - subtract all of that too. That's your total for chandelier, however you add up the bulbs. I have to guess that your chandelier with LEDS comes in under that. Especially since its a shared circuit on 15A, the argument can be made that it should be on its own circuit. Paul Yeah actually surprised it’s not in its own circuit but it was installed post build and after HO so who knows. Although the circuit it is on has no constant load. Anyway good advice - dimming is not a requirement but automation is because my damn kids turn it on and leave it on all day so I set it to turn off after 15 minutes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
paulbates Posted January 6, 2019 Posted January 6, 2019 I have the same thing on my stairwell lights for the same reason Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
chad.hyett Posted January 6, 2019 Author Posted January 6, 2019 I have the same thing on my stairwell lights for the same reason Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Hell without kids I probably wouldn’t need any automation... bedroom lights to dim and go off... hallway lights. Bathroom lights. I mean I guess it allows me to justify to my wife the money spent hahahaha. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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