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For debugging purposes I've been finding it handy to have the ISY send me a text from inside certain programs. Especially with motion detector type functions that have dependencies to have different things done on motion.

It works fine, except that each message I get comes from a different "number."  For instance:

(410) 200-516

(410) 200-521

(410) 100-017

It means I have to manually delete each one or try to fold them into a single contact. 

This is probably expected behavior, but it'd be nice if the SMS's were sent from the same number, or small group of numbers. My phone is on the ATT network, and it's an iPhone X.

 

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Unfortunately that's the way AT&T does it.   It used to work better if you used the AT&T MMS email address.  Everything would come from the same number, but that stopped working a while ago.

I'd recommend you looking into Pushover or something similar.

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If you configure your own SMTP server in Configuration > Emails/Notifications > Setting/Groups then you can send to <10digitnumber>@mms.att.net and the messages will arrive from your email address, they are also not broken up into short messages which arrive out of order.  (as of last time i checked 4.5 years ago the messages using UDI's default SMTP server would not arrive).

I created a Comcast mailbox for my ISY to use exclusively.   I also send most messages to the inbox of that same account.  You can likely do the same thing with whoever your provider is, I'll include a redacted screen shot to perhaps make it easier, port number may however vary by provider, most use 587 or 465 (and almost none use 25 anymore) but there could be variations.

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I set mine up like @MrBill and it works as he said.  Another trick is to use gmail and install a plug in called cloud HQ SMS.  You can set filters on it where any email sent to your gmail account that meets the filter criteria gets forwarded as a text.  Those texts always arrive on my phone as having been sent by the same number.  I started using the cloud HQ app maybe 2 years ago when IFTTT stopped supporting texts.  So I have it send an email and Cloud HQ forwards that on as a text.

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23 hours ago, apostolakisl said:

I set mine up like @MrBill and it works as he said.  Another trick is to use gmail and install a plug in called cloud HQ SMS.  You can set filters on it where any email sent to your gmail account that meets the filter criteria gets forwarded as a text.  Those texts always arrive on my phone as having been sent by the same number.  I started using the cloud HQ app maybe 2 years ago when IFTTT stopped supporting texts.  So I have it send an email and Cloud HQ forwards that on as a text.

I like this idea, but how much information is sent in the text?  Enough to get an idea of what the text mean or is it like the website shows, just a link to your received text?  

Can you post a sample text?

Thanks in advance

PhanTomiZ

P.S.  I have my notifications sent through email to mobile provider text using short codes.  The senders number is between 4000001 to 4000999.  Works great, but I can't filter notifications from ISY and personal ones.  Because of numerous texts from my ISY, I sometimes miss texts from friends and family.

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2 hours ago, PhanTomiZ said:

I like this idea, but how much information is sent in the text?  Enough to get an idea of what the text mean or is it like the website shows, just a link to your received text?  

Can you post a sample text?

Thanks in advance

PhanTomiZ

P.S.  I have my notifications sent through email to mobile provider text using short codes.  The senders number is between 4000001 to 4000999.  Works great, but I can't filter notifications from ISY and personal ones.  Because of numerous texts from my ISY, I sometimes miss texts from friends and family.

You build your own customized content for the texts the same way you do for emails from ISY.  https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-994i_Series:EMail_and_Networking_Substitution_Variables

 

If your carrier is AT&T using 10digitnumber@txt.att.net means that the messages arrive from 1 (410) 000-XXX and are broken into max 160 character messages, often arriving out of order.

If your carrier is AT&T using 10digitnumber@mms.att.net the messages will arrive from the email address that sent the message and has max length of 1000 char (I think).

If your carrier is a different provider they all have their own similar email to sms/mms gateways.  Many are listed in the table in this wikipedia article.

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5 hours ago, PhanTomiZ said:

I like this idea, but how much information is sent in the text?  Enough to get an idea of what the text mean or is it like the website shows, just a link to your received text?  

Can you post a sample text?

Thanks in advance

PhanTomiZ

P.S.  I have my notifications sent through email to mobile provider text using short codes.  The senders number is between 4000001 to 4000999.  Works great, but I can't filter notifications from ISY and personal ones.  Because of numerous texts from my ISY, I sometimes miss texts from friends and family.

I only send short messages and the whole thing goes through.  They have a link to the "whole email" in the text, so I suppose that means they cut you off at some point.  My messages are things like "upstairs laundry done".  If you are sending large messages, texting really isn't designed for that.  Of course, you actually get the email, so really all the text needs to say is, "check your email".   They send both the subject line and body of the email.  I put the same info in both, so my SMS ends up being "upstairs laundry done" "upstairs laundry done".

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2 hours ago, MrBill said:

You build your own customized content for the texts the same way you do for emails from ISY.  https://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-994i_Series:EMail_and_Networking_Substitution_Variables

 

If your carrier is AT&T using 10digitnumber@txt.att.net means that the messages arrive from 1 (410) 000-XXX and are broken into max 160 character messages, often arriving out of order.

If your carrier is AT&T using 10digitnumber@mms.att.net the messages will arrive from the email address that sent the message and has max length of 1000 char (I think).

If your carrier is a different provider they all have their own similar email to sms/mms gateways.  Many are listed in the table in this wikipedia article.

I'm not on AT&T, but my mobile carrier's format is the same as your first example: 10digitnumber@txt.att.net

The CloudHQ website makes it seem that the texts are not configurable, but rather a general text referring the receiver of the text to click a link to read the text contents

Thanks for the explanation,

I will be hard at work changing things and now should be able to set up notifications based on 1 phone number.

PhanTomiZ

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2 minutes ago, apostolakisl said:

I only send short messages and the whole thing goes through.  They have a link to the "whole email" in the text, so I suppose that means they cut you off at some point.  My messages are things like "upstairs laundry done".  If you are sending large messages, texting really isn't designed for that.  Of course, you actually get the email, so really all the text needs to say is, "check your email".   They send both the subject line and body of the email.  I put the same info in both, so my SMS ends up being "upstairs laundry done" "upstairs laundry done".

That will work for me and simplify things.  Maybe now my ISY texts will not bury my personal texts...

Glad I keep up with most of the forum emails.  Always good ideas to investigate.

PhanTomiZ

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7 minutes ago, PhanTomiZ said:

That will work for me and simplify things.  Maybe now my ISY texts will not bury my personal texts...

Glad I keep up with most of the forum emails.  Always good ideas to investigate.

PhanTomiZ

I use google voice as my phone carrier and this is what shows up as my text in the laundry example.  This is a copy and paste from my google voice interface on my PC.  The one on my phone is similar. 

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