Kentinada Posted July 21, 2020 Author Posted July 21, 2020 So the Aeotec Range Extender 7 is unavailable on Amazon I assume because it is made in China. They have the Range Extender 6. Just as good? Wait for the 7? Thoughts?
Teken Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kentinada said: So the Aeotec Range Extender 7 is unavailable on Amazon I assume because it is made in China. They have the Range Extender 6. Just as good? Wait for the 7? Thoughts? https://popp.to/products/aeotec-range-extender-7-zw117?variant=34603086315565?utm_source=Aeotec-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=w2b
Kentinada Posted July 21, 2020 Author Posted July 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, Teken said: https://popp.to/products/aeotec-range-extender-7-zw117?variant=34603086315565?utm_source=Aeotec-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=w2b @Teken Thanks. I thought the Popp site was just for the UK but I see they have a type B plug as well.
Teken Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kentinada said: @Teken Thanks. I thought the Popp site was just for the UK but I see they have a type B plug as well. Let us know how it all turns out once it arrives. Don't forget to hit the *Like* button to the right if you found the information useful! ?
Kentinada Posted July 21, 2020 Author Posted July 21, 2020 OK so I'm cheap. I don't want to pay $16 for shipping when I have Amazon Prime and can get them shipped for nothing. So I'm back to my earlier question of the 6 vs the 7? Are they almost as effective? Effective enough?
Teken Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, Kentinada said: OK so I'm cheap. I don't want to pay $16 for shipping when I have Amazon Prime and can get them shipped for nothing. So I'm back to my earlier question of the 6 vs the 7? Are they almost as effective? Effective enough? If you just want something to repeat the Z-Wave signal go ahead. If Generation 7 is truly all its touted to be you will still be waiting for everything else to take advantage of this performance increase!
lilyoyo1 Posted July 21, 2020 Posted July 21, 2020 24 minutes ago, Kentinada said: OK so I'm cheap. I don't want to pay $16 for shipping when I have Amazon Prime and can get them shipped for nothing. So I'm back to my earlier question of the 6 vs the 7? Are they almost as effective? Effective enough? When building a new system, I always go for the latest technology out in order to have some future proofing even if its never used....especially with zwave since it will convert to the oldest technology within your system. In that sense, its worth waiting for. With that said, I tend to go for products that have dual use such as a lamp module. If a plug in module is just sitting there unused (to others), they are more likely to unplug it or move it somwhere. While usable devices are more expensive, it can potentially pay for itself. Imagine you get a new lamp or something that requires power. Now you'll end up buying another device for it when you already had something available. While you may still need a couple of more extra devices this way vs using 1 or 2 repeaters (which offers greater range) your system will thank you. Since zwave has self healing capability, should a device die, your network could potentially have other routes to get its signal to your devices. Before jumping in and just buying to get this one thing working, think forward to the future about what you may want to do. Thats not to say get a bunch of stuff now. Just plan for it so that you are buying the right products for your needs vs seeing what sticks. Whatever path you take, get more than what you need. The last thing you want to do is get exactly what you think you'll need and still have issues.
madcodger Posted July 22, 2020 Posted July 22, 2020 22 hours ago, lilyoyo1 said: Aeotech's repeater amplify the zwave signal vs solely repeating it which is why it may work better than others Good to know! I think they're the best product Aeotec ever produced.
Kentinada Posted July 23, 2020 Author Posted July 23, 2020 So I received my pair of Aeotec Range Extender 6's today. When I plug them in, do I need to add them as a Z-wave device inside my Admin panel or do they just work without any action on my part?
Kentinada Posted July 23, 2020 Author Posted July 23, 2020 10 minutes ago, Kentinada said: So I received my pair of Aeotec Range Extender 6's today. When I plug them in, do I need to add them as a Z-wave device inside my Admin panel or do they just work without any action on my part? Never mind. Figured it out. Sorry.
Teken Posted July 23, 2020 Posted July 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, Kentinada said: Never mind. Figured it out. Sorry. ??
RPerrault Posted July 25, 2020 Posted July 25, 2020 i added z-wave to my isy - got a repeater for the wiring closet where the isy lives - placed a repeater at each end of the house in the attic - it was the only z-wave devices i had for probably a year this is my understanding of how z-wave works (z-wave plus anyway) when you 'include' a new device, the path to the controller is established - its the only path the device can take so its important to do the include where the device will be located - i think a 'heal' is supposed to optimize the paths of existing devices (reestablish the paths) but since i am new to z-wave, i am spooked by it i think all plus devices repeat the signal so it could be in a path to any other device - as devices are added a heal would be helpful - evidently z-wave limits the hops allowed to its devices (each device in the path is a hop) my philosophy was - if i am going to add z-wave i wanted full coverage from the start - might have worked because i added a motorized blind recently and the communication has been solid i have to understand the concept of how something works before i can troubleshoot
lilyoyo1 Posted July 25, 2020 Posted July 25, 2020 21 hours ago, RPerrault said: i added z-wave to my isy - got a repeater for the wiring closet where the isy lives - placed a repeater at each end of the house in the attic - it was the only z-wave devices i had for probably a year this is my understanding of how z-wave works (z-wave plus anyway) when you 'include' a new device, the path to the controller is established - its the only path the device can take so its important to do the include where the device will be located - i think a 'heal' is supposed to optimize the paths of existing devices (reestablish the paths) but since i am new to z-wave, i am spooked by it. Not necessarily...this is what the heal is for. Besides that, if a device is installed out of range the isy won't find it. You're better off adding it to the isy first then doing a heal once all devices are added. If you have all zwave plus and add devices later, they could potentially be installed at the location then added due to Network wide inclusion. Personally, I add first to verify the device works then install regardless. i think all plus devices repeat the signal so it could be in a path to any other device - as devices are added a heal would be helpful - evidently z-wave limits the hops allowed to its devices (each device in the path is a hop). Somewhat correct. All hardwired zwave devices repeat not just plus devices. Older non plus devices do the same. Yes there are limited good but that doesnt mean each individual device in front of a device. You can have 10 devices lined up but only the 3rd and 7th may be needed to get the signal to that device. The hell will establish what is optimal. Due to self healing, this could potentially change over time which is why having a couple of extra devices that can repeat is a good thing my philosophy was - if i am going to add z-wave i wanted full coverage from the start - might have worked because i added a motorized blind recently and the communication has been solid i have to understand the concept of how something works before i can troubleshoot
madcodger Posted July 26, 2020 Posted July 26, 2020 On 7/21/2020 at 6:32 PM, Kentinada said: OK so I'm cheap. I don't want to pay $16 for shipping when I have Amazon Prime and can get them shipped for nothing. So I'm back to my earlier question of the 6 vs the 7? Are they almost as effective? Effective enough? As I recall, I have v6 and they work perfectly. Also, I tend to first perform an exclude on a new device before I add it. And, I add new devices near either the ISY or a repeater (ISY, normally), activate the device a couple of times from that initial setup location, then perform TWO "heals" after I place the device in its actual location. Works well for me. Healing is really just a process that allows the z-wave system to figure out how to best "map" connections between devices (hops). If you remove devices, don't forget to perform another couple of heals (remappings) as the removed devices are no longer repeating.
Kentinada Posted July 28, 2020 Author Posted July 28, 2020 I had to put my ISY back in it's original location to get some other INSTEON issues working again. Now the Z-wave motion sensor doesn't work which is not surprising based on how far away it is from my ISY. I have 2 Aeotec Range Extender 6's installed and added to my ISY. See screenshot. ZW4 is within 12 feet of my ISY but it's in my office which is directly above my ISY in the basement. The ZW3 is down the hall from my office and it is probably 12' away from the motion sensor which is outside. Should the lights on the range extenders be on? They're not. The ISY admin panel doesn't seem to see any problems. I tried to heal the network. See 2nd attached screenshot. Motion sensor says it failed. Not sure if the RE's are working or not. Ideas?
Kentinada Posted July 28, 2020 Author Posted July 28, 2020 It looks like the Network Heal worked after all. I went outside with my iphone and mobilinc and watched the ZW2 motion sensor. It did report on and off. So I guess the heal didn't work on it because it wasn't awake? I still have no clue on the light on the RE6 though. They're not on but things seem to be working so I guess I'm good. Yikes.
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