Adjust scene settings?

[jch]

In my office I have a Motion Detector II, two controllers, two dimmable lights, two switched lights and a fan.  I have several scenes and buttons to turn individual lights and the fan on and off.

If I want to adjust a motion sensor scene to respond the same no matter which controller activates it (program, one of two controllers, motion sensor), do I need to use Adjust scene for each responder and controller?

Maintaining this is a bit onerous, I'm just wondering if there is an easier way.

Thanks.

Jeff

[MrBill]

You need to set the responders ONCE for each controller, there is no need to use "adjust scene" from a program unless I'm totally misreading what you are trying to do.

Let's say we have Light A controlled by switch A, its in a scene with Switch B (no load connected), and Button C on a KPL also as controllers, and motion detector D.

On the Main Tab of the Admin console down at the bottom you need to configure the scene 5 times!  The root level of the scene and all 4 Red controllers that appear below it.  You want the scene to work the same way from everywhere so set all 5 of those controllers the same way.  Done.  Now it doesn't matter what turns the scene on it will be the same.  Conversely, lets pretend Light A is in the bathroom and Button C is by the bed, in that case you may want all the other options to turn the light on bright, but for button C you can set it so that when light A is turned on by button C it only comes on at 15%.

When do you use "Adjust Scene"?  Let's pretend light K is accent lighting Normally controlled by KPL button E as a controller.  We want Button E to turn on at 80% during the day, but after Sunset we want Button E's on value to instead be 30%.   So we would create a program that "Adjust Scene" at sunset to change how Button E acts as a controller.  Then at some other time we want it to revert back to Bright, let's say Sunrise.

If

   From Sunset

  to Sunrise (next day)

then

  Adjust scene Kitchen Accent / Button E light to ON Level 30%

else

  Adjust scene Kitchen Accent Button E light to On Level 80%

 

This program Runs twice at Sunset where the THEN clause Runs, it Runs again at Sunrise where the ELSE clause runs.  This program does NOT change the level of light whether or not the light is on or off when the program runs.  What it does do is REPROGRAM Button E so that when button E is turned on it will have the appropriate ON level for that time of day.

You could add additional lines to the program to adjust the actual light level, or more likely use a different program that only adjust the level of the actual light if the light is on.

CAVEAT:   Since you mentioned "Adjust Scene" and Motion Detector in the same sentence:  THE IS A BUG to be aware of:

As far as using adjust scene with a motion detector...... What version firmware?   and is the Motion Battery powered or powered by external power?   In version 4.x firmware there's no problem adjusting scenes.  In version 5.x if the motion detector is battery powered there is a bug:  You can't use Adjust Scene if a motion detector, or any battery powered device, is a Controller in the scene.  (the problem goes away if the motion is USB powered.)

[jch]

@MrBillThanks for the response.

I'm using 5.3.0 and my Motion Sensor II is USB powered.

To be clear about adjusting the Motion scene, I want it to respond to whatever scene I have manually enabled.

• The default state is my Work scene.  When I press the button to turn out the lights or there is no motion for a period of time, the motion scene is set up to mirror the Work scene
• If I turn on the fan, or the temperature is above 72F, the fan will be enabled in the motion scene so it comes on when I enter the office.
• If I turn on another scene, the Motion Scene wil be configured to mirror that scene.  That way motion wil not change my desired lighting.

Thanks.

Jeff

[MrBill]

1 minute ago, jch said:

@MrBillThanks for the response.

I'm using 5.3.0 and my Motion Sensor II is USB powered.

To be clear about adjusting the Motion scene, I want it to respond to whatever scene I have manually enabled.

• The default state is my Work scene.  When I press the button to turn out the lights or there is no motion for a period of time, the motion scene is set up to mirror the Work scene
• If I turn on the fan, or the temperature is above 72F, the fan will be enabled in the motion scene so it comes on when I enter the office.
• If I turn on another scene, the Motion Scene wil be configured to mirror that scene.  That way motion wil not change my desired lighting.

Thanks.

Jeff

You would use Adjust Scene for that.  Assuming the the motion is a controller in the scene you would choose:

Scene: your scene

Controller: Motion Detector

Set: Device that needs adjusted

So you would need a program for the fan

If

      Control (name of 1st scene controller) is switched ON

 or  control (name of 2nd scene controller) is switched ON

 or (more scene controllers, but not the motion itself) is switched ON

 or Temp > 72

then

   Adjust Scene A / Motion Detector / set Fan On

else

   Nothing

 

and then another program to reverse that:

If

      Control (name of 1st scene controller) is switched OFF

 or  control (name of 2nd scene controller) is switched OFF

 or (more scene controllers, but not the motion itself) is switched OFF

 or Temp <= 72

then

   Adjust Scene A / Motion Detector / set Fan OFF

else

   Nothing