Keypadlinc 6 to 8 button

[MarkJames]

Admittedly I'm being lazy here but often there is nuance in these devices so I'm asking.

 

When I first started using KPL's you could convert them between  6 and 8 button.  They've stopped coming with both plates now and are sold separately.  I have an older 6 button that has failed.  I have a new in box 8 button that I'd like to replace it with.  I wouldn't care about the extra buttons except for that  I had engraved custom buttons made for the 6 that won't fit the 8.  Does anyone know if it's still possible to convert an 8 to a 6 programmatically?  Or has that been discontinued?

 

Thanks

[gzahar]

Admittedly I'm being lazy here but often there is nuance in these devices so I'm asking.
 
When I first started using KPL's you could convert them between  6 and 8 button.  They've stopped coming with both plates now and are sold separately.  I have an older 6 button that has failed.  I have a new in box 8 button that I'd like to replace it with.  I wouldn't care about the extra buttons except for that  I had engraved custom buttons made for the 6 that won't fit the 8.  Does anyone know if it's still possible to convert an 8 to a 6 programmatically?  Or has that been discontinued?
 
Thanks

It is still possible to convert KPLs between 6 and 8 button mode. This is a function of the KPL firmware and changed by a process of button presses on the KPL and not a program.

[Teken]

Steps are listed in page 17.

https://cache-m2.smarthome.com/manuals/2334-2xx.pdf

[MarkJames]

Thank you - will give it a try.  The new ones don't come with a manual the way the old ones did and I wasn't clear on whether the old steps would still work.  Will give it a go.  For some reason I had 3 ISY devices fail in the last month - things had been going along pretty good for a year or two with no failures so this caught me off guard.

[Teken]

Thank you - will give it a try.  The new ones don't come with a manual the way the old ones did and I wasn't clear on whether the old steps would still work.  Will give it a go.  For some reason I had 3 ISY devices fail in the last month - things had been going along pretty good for a year or two with no failures so this caught me off guard.

Just a reminder make the physical change first before you add it to the ISY Series Controller.

[MarkJames]

That should have been my next question - what would ISY recognize it as.  I guess you're saying that it sends a different ID depending on how it's configured. It would  be a lot more convenient to have it just be recognized as a 6 so that I can directly replace it in ISY.  

 

Thanks again.

[edit above] in my previous post I wrote that 3 ISY devices had failed.  I meant to say '3 Insteon devices had failed'

[Teken]

That should have been my next question - what would ISY recognize it as.  I guess you're saying that it sends a different ID depending on how it's configured. It would  be a lot more convenient to have it just be recognized as a 6 so that I can directly replace it in ISY.  
 
Thanks again.
[edit above] in my previous post I wrote that 3 ISY devices had failed.  I meant to say '3 Insteon devices had failed'

The controller will identify it as whatever the hardware is 6 / 8. The potential problem you run into is if the hardware is a 8 button and you add it in and later manually change it to 6 button.

The different nodes may not appear correctly. This also causes so called ghost links to remain in extreme cases.

[MarkJames]

All changed over successfully.  When adding it ISY identified it as an 8 button even though I had changed it but it correctly recognized 6 buttons.  So all is well.

Thanks everyone, for the help.

 

mark