MarkJames Posted February 27, 2010 Posted February 27, 2010 Well - I just finished running 250ftx2 of cat5 and 250ftx1 of siamese out to my garage to hook the alarm and another surveillance camera up. I installed one of the small arming stations - the m1kpas for the garage. I set the garage up as area 2 in the Elk system. Is anyone familiar with the area functions in Elk - I've been trying to figger out how to arm the garage from the house and vice versa. The house has full keypads - not just arming stations. Seems to me it should be do-able - I just can't find the magic combination. I can do it using the rules feature but it seems like there should be another way. mark
Traditore Posted February 28, 2010 Posted February 28, 2010 I don't have an M1KPAS arming station, but I'm pretty sure the only way to arm a different area with it is to make a rule for one of its six function keys. On the other hand, it is possible to arm a different area from a keypad if you make a temporary mapping. Page 20 of the M1 Installation Manual (sorry for the poor copy and paste... it's a PDF file): Menu 0 - Select Keypad Alternate Area - Multi-area (Partition) Operation Press the RIGHT arrow key to select this menu and display the following: Enter a valid user code. The control does not allow (restricts) mapping or viewing of areas that are not authorized for the user code. MAPPING TO AN INDIVIDUAL AREA Enter an area number from 1 to 8 OR scroll UP and DOWN with the arrow keys. Press the Right Arrow key to map the Keypad to the area shown. The LCD display and the Ready / Armed LEDs will show the status for the mapped area for 1 minute. During this minute, it is possible to arm, disarm, bypass, etc. the mapped area from this keypad. Each time a key is pressed the 1 minute is restarted. However, after 1 minute of no keypress activity, the keypad will return to its original primary assigned area. ACCESSING A CONSOLIDATED DISPLAY OF ALL VALID AREAS Entering ì0î for the area number immediately maps the Keypad to a consolidated ësnapshotà of all authorized areas. This permits quick arming and disarming only. If an area is not ready to arm it will be necessary to map individually to that area to view the violated zone(s) and either secure or bypass them prior to arming. This example shows all 8 areas, meaning that the User Code was valid for all 8. The display only shows the areas for which the user code is authorized. This menu allows the keypad to be mapped temporarily to any other area, allowing multi-area (partitioned) operation. An individually mapped area can be armed, disarmed, and controlled just as if the keypad were permanently assigned to that area. It may also be used to access a consolidated display of all areas at once, showing the status of each area. To reach the keypad menus press the center navigation key labeled ìELKî. A user code may be required depending on how the control is programmed. The four arrow keys around the Elk key are used to scroll, backup, etc. Pressing the RIGHT arrow key will select the displayed menu. 1.Press the ELK key. Enter a user code if prompted. 2.Use the UP or DOWN arrow keys to find menu ì0-Select Keypad Alternate Areaî. 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 0-Select Keypad Alternate Area r 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 1234567890123456789012345678 Auth. 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MarkJames Posted February 28, 2010 Author Posted February 28, 2010 Thanks for that... I'm going to have to drink a big cup of coffee before trying to wade through it. It looks like it's doable but perhaps too complicated for day-to-day use. It might be better to just use a rule as you said at the top. I'll certainly try it that way. The 'consolidated display' part sounds valuable. When I'm done I hope to have 5 areas in my home so it'd be great to be able to check them all quickly. Mark
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