GJ Software Products Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) Looks like 5.5.3 fixes the System Busy loop when you Migrate to Z-Wave+ Matter. I still need to try to add devices now. Edited January 11, 2023 by GJ Software Products
ISY4Me Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 There are two of us still seeing the system busy loop on 5.5.3. We are seeing it just on the IoX Restore… before ZMatter migration https://forum.universal-devices.com/topic/39796-support-thread-iox-release-v553/?do=findComment&comment=356459
GJ Software Products Posted January 11, 2023 Author Posted January 11, 2023 51 minutes ago, GJ Software Products said: Looks like 5.5.3 fixes the System Busy loop when you Migrate to Z-Wave+ Matter. I still need to try to add devices now. Ok, I was able to add an AEOTEC Smart Switch 7 ZWA023 and a New One Smart Plug N4003 and they both work. But I cannot add a Leviton DZPA1. My existing Z-Wave network is loaded with DZPA1s, what’s one to do?
brians Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, GJ Software Products said: Ok, I was able to add an AEOTEC Smart Switch 7 ZWA023 and a New One Smart Plug N4003 and they both work. But I cannot add a Leviton DZPA1. My existing Z-Wave network is loaded with DZPA1s, what’s one to do? I have a three or four of those working but haven’t changed since 5.5.3 so maybe is a bug ? Therefore I don’t want to exclude them to test. I do have a spare dimmer version DZPD3 which is basically same thing but a dimmer, and I just successfully excluded and included it again no problem on v5.5.3. Were those DZPA1 working for you on v5.5.2 and this problem was just introduced in v5.5.3? Are you excluding/including on the Leviton by pressing the button for several seconds until it flashes red, then let go and press once? I do like the DZPA1's and nobody really seems to make a unit as nice for the price. Being typical Leviton, they don't support instant status. Since they are not really designed to be a controller where you would switch on/off locally I have never missed this - I never would turn on the device local by reaching down to the plug and pressing the button. They do support hail if this is necessary to get status, but with ZMatter this is broken for now. Edited January 11, 2023 by brians
GJ Software Products Posted January 12, 2023 Author Posted January 12, 2023 21 hours ago, brians said: I have a three or four of those working but haven’t changed since 5.5.3 so maybe is a bug ? Therefore I don’t want to exclude them to test. I do have a spare dimmer version DZPD3 which is basically same thing but a dimmer, and I just successfully excluded and included it again no problem on v5.5.3. Were those DZPA1 working for you on v5.5.2 and this problem was just introduced in v5.5.3? Are you excluding/including on the Leviton by pressing the button for several seconds until it flashes red, then let go and press once? I do like the DZPA1's and nobody really seems to make a unit as nice for the price. Being typical Leviton, they don't support instant status. Since they are not really designed to be a controller where you would switch on/off locally I have never missed this - I never would turn on the device local by reaching down to the plug and pressing the button. They do support hail if this is necessary to get status, but with ZMatter this is broken for now. I couldn't Add until 5.5.3, 5.5.2 I was experiencing the System Busy loop. Yes, I did the 14 sec button press factory reset procedure and the eisy still can't find it. Yes, they've worked well here in my application, I don't control them manually either. They work great in my 500 994i but not yet in my eisy.
brians Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, GJ Software Products said: I couldn't Add until 5.5.3, 5.5.2 I was experiencing the System Busy loop. Yes, I did the 14 sec button press factory reset procedure and the eisy still can't find it. Yes, they've worked well here in my application, I don't control them manually either. They work great in my 500 994i but not yet in my eisy. Try updating firmwares... If you had zooz stick before, I would suggest downloading the Silicon Labs PC software and checking the firmware on those. In past it has been difficult to get firmware for Leviton in files, but now they provided them (probably due to works with Leviton works with HA partnership or whatever) and just last week I upgraded my dimmer as a test - hoping maybe would fix hail or support instant on, but nope!. Anyways maybe a firmware update would fix y our issue and do via the PC software for now. Can look elsewhere in these forums for instructions how or even Zooz site tells how. Here is a link to the firmwares. Maybe UDI will support OTA eventually but they are saying firmware bug in the ZMatter or implying end device's fault, but other hubs seem to be able to do it so not sure on the reason. https://hubconnecteddecorasmart.leviton.com/hc/en-us/articles/7151993826075-Updating-Decora-Smart-Z-Wave-Using-Home-Assistant Edited January 12, 2023 by brians
GJ Software Products Posted January 12, 2023 Author Posted January 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, brians said: Try updating firmwares... If you had zooz stick before, I would suggest downloading the Silicon Labs PC software and checking the firmware on those. In past it has been difficult to get firmware for Leviton in files, but now they provided them (probably due to works with Leviton works with HA partnership or whatever) and just last week I upgraded my dimmer as a test - hoping maybe would fix hail or support instant on, but nope!. Anyways maybe a firmware update would fix y our issue and do via the PC software for now. Can look elsewhere in these forums for instructions how or even Zooz site tells how. Here is a link to the firmwares. Maybe UDI will support OTA eventually but they are saying firmware bug in the ZMatter or implying end device's fault, but other hubs seem to be able to do it so not sure on the reason. https://hubconnecteddecorasmart.leviton.com/hc/en-us/articles/7151993826075-Updating-Decora-Smart-Z-Wave-Using-Home-Assistant @briansThanks. Yea, I had to upgrade the FW on my Zen32's and I got Simplicity Studio and a Zooz stick for one of my workstations so I'll have to look for any new FW for Leviton. However, after another factory reset I was able to Add it tonight. Had trouble setting parameter 7 from the device view but right clicking on the node & choosing ZWave/Set Configuration Parameter worked. I'm still a little bit hesitant to start moving my 994i to eisy, concerned about my Kwikset door lock and I need the Elk Node Server too. I've got a couple HomeSeer motion sensors / flood light controllers I need to experiment with too plus the Zen32s.
brians Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 7 hours ago, GJ Software Products said: @briansThanks. Yea, I had to upgrade the FW on my Zen32's and I got Simplicity Studio and a Zooz stick for one of my workstations so I'll have to look for any new FW for Leviton. However, after another factory reset I was able to Add it tonight. Had trouble setting parameter 7 from the device view but right clicking on the node & choosing ZWave/Set Configuration Parameter worked. I'm still a little bit hesitant to start moving my 994i to eisy, concerned about my Kwikset door lock and I need the Elk Node Server too. I've got a couple HomeSeer motion sensors / flood light controllers I need to experiment with too plus the Zen32s. The zen32 I am interested how it works now with zmatter regarding scenes and if the physical button still gets its scene triggered by pressing any of the smaller buttons, which made it sort of useless to me so I returned mine.
GJ Software Products Posted January 13, 2023 Author Posted January 13, 2023 @briansYes, I remember fighting any one of the 4 smaller buttons would trigger the big button/relay. I don't remember exactly how I got around that but I've got parameter 19 (control on the relay) set to 2, disable local & Z-Wave control and I'm using it as a 5 button keypad and it works fine. I control the LEDs for the individual buttons programmatically. Here's how I think I've got it configured, my worksheet got corrupted. Parameter 1 Description: 0 3 LED always on Parameter 2 The configuration parameter 40 is a one byte field, used to set the lock to its default 2 Parameter 3 setting, known as a factory reset command. 2 Parameter 4 Reading this parameter will always return a value of 0. 0 3 LED always on Parameter 5 Writing a value of 1 to this parameter will cause both the lock and Z-Wave card to reset 2 Parameter 6 back to their default settings and will remove itself from the network. All network 0 Parameter 7 information, including associations will be cleared 0 Parameter 47 Motor Load Control 1 byte 0 Parameter 9 Default Value: 0 3 Parameter 10 Possible Values: 1 – enabled, 0 – disabled 0 Parameter 11 Description: 1 1 0-Bright, 1-Medium,2-Low Parameter 12 The configuration parameter 47 uses 1 byte that will allow the user to get / set the value 1 Parameter 13 to enable or disable the motor load alarm. Setting this byte to 0 will disable the alarm, 1 Parameter 14 whereas setting this byte to 1 will enable the alarm. If a motor load alarm has been 1 Parameter 15 activated and the alarm has been enabled, the alarm will be sent via the Power 1 Parameter 16 Management group in the Notification Command Class as a Load Error (0x09). 0 Parameter 17 0 Parameter 18 0 Parameter 19 Disable / Enable control on the relay 1 2 Disable Local & Z-Wave control Parameter 20 Set reporting behavior for disabled physical control 1 1 Parameter 21 0 Parameter 22 0 Parameter 23 0 1
brians Posted January 13, 2023 Posted January 13, 2023 @GJ Software ProductsYa I wanted to have local button and load control on Zen32. I am hoping that on ZMatter, each physical button will make a node with scene buttons 1-4, and physical button being scene 5 and all isolated where pressing a small button doesn't make the physical button appear to turn on. Hopefully works better in ZMatter unless was the Zen32 doing this on its own. Don't really care that much anyways anymore since I would buy an Insteon keypadlinc over a Zen32 - this is beauty of still having Insteon support and able to integrate it all with types of devices. Back when I was testing Zen32, fate of Insteon was uncertain so was looking for alternatives. I am curious however about Zen32 now.
GJ Software Products Posted January 13, 2023 Author Posted January 13, 2023 @briansYes, it's hard to beat the keypadlinc, I went to the Zen32 not knowing the fate of Insteon but even right now moving the first Zen32 to my eisy I'm having to fight it and I gave up for now. Yea, it's scene button (1-4) related.
brians Posted January 16, 2023 Posted January 16, 2023 On 1/13/2023 at 1:51 PM, GJ Software Products said: @briansYes, it's hard to beat the keypadlinc, I went to the Zen32 not knowing the fate of Insteon but even right now moving the first Zen32 to my eisy I'm having to fight it and I gave up for now. Yea, it's scene button (1-4) related. If you ever get Zen32 working, please provide an information of the nodes it has. I am curious if it has scene button 1 - 5 nodes and basic scene group 2,4,6,8,10 like it did before (ZMatter seems to have issue showing all nodes like it did with 500 series). If has all these or similar then it will most likely make it much better to work with scenes. This is because ZMatter now correctly supports basic associations for zwave devices, and IoX can use scene control nodes now to trigger Insteon etc.... there is a thread here where we discuss... which is probably a better spot to continue this regarding zen32.
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