EJones01 Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) I have tried this twice with two different module types. I select replace and the new device and the Admin Console goes through the motions and replaces the device in all my scenes etc. It then quits and I restart it. All looks OK, the new device is there in the scenes and all the settings look good. BUT it doesn't work. I activate the screen either from the new switch or from the Console...nothing happens. The only thing that does work is simply turning in the switch from the Console. What am I doing wrong? Edit: I'm noticing it says default in the Actions? Edited January 26, 2023 by EJones01
Techman Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 What are your ISY firmware and UI versions? What is the module that you wanted replaced, what is the module you replaced it with?
EJones01 Posted January 26, 2023 Author Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) Polisy Firmware and UI = 5.4.5 Keypadlinc Dimmers. I also tried to replace a micro module dimmer and had the same issue. For that one I had to remove the controllers from the scenes and add back to get them to work. Its as though even though they are listed as a controller (in red) in the scene they aren't anymore. the issue does seem to be related to this default text? If I remove the controller from the scene and add back...it says On instead and works correctly Edited January 26, 2023 by EJones01
Techman Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 Do you have a Polisy or an eisy? The latest firmware for the above is 5.5.4 which contains bug fixes
EJones01 Posted January 26, 2023 Author Posted January 26, 2023 Polisy...I'll update but I presume I'll have to rebuild all my scenes as the replace has already happened. Are there release notes for this update?
Techman Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 (edited) There have been two updates since 5.4.5: 5.5.0 and 5.5.4. IoX Release v5.5.4 Is Now Available - Current Release Announcements - Universal Devices Forum (universal-devices.com) Not sure what effect the update(s) will have on your scenes. Edited January 26, 2023 by Techman
EJones01 Posted January 26, 2023 Author Posted January 26, 2023 Thanks..I updated but don't see anything changed or relating to this in the release notes. I don't see a way to make a device a controller once its already in a scene. Is it even possible?
hart2hart Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 Remove it from the scene and add it back to same scene as a controller.
EJones01 Posted January 26, 2023 Author Posted January 26, 2023 1 minute ago, hart2hart said: Remove it from the scene and add it back to same scene as a controller. Yep, that seems to be the only way.....its an 8 button keypadlinc across 10+ scenes so it would be nice if the replace worked. I have a lot of old line communication devices I'm slowly replacing. I hope this gets looked at.
kclenden Posted January 26, 2023 Posted January 26, 2023 2 hours ago, EJones01 said: What am I doing wrong? It appears from your screenshot that the device being replaced is in a folder. I have read in other posts that you cannot replace a device if it's in a folder, but haven't actually tried it myself.
EJones01 Posted January 27, 2023 Author Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, kclenden said: It appears from your screenshot that the device being replaced is in a folder. I have read in other posts that you cannot replace a device if it's in a folder, but haven't actually tried it myself. It only says the device should not be in a folder....not scenes. If its scenes too then the documentation needs updating. FYI if the devices are not in the root then it doesn't even give the option to replace. Edited January 27, 2023 by EJones01
kclenden Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, EJones01 said: It only says the device should not be in a folder....not scenes. Again, none of my devices are in folders so I've never run into this. While the device you circled seems to be in the main folder, other devices in the scene appear to be in folders. I don't know whether that matters, but given the warning about the device not being in a folder, it wouldn't surprise me if that also goes for other devices in scenes with the device being replaced. What happens when you replace a device is that the ISY/Polisy/eISY goes through all the links in the PLM Links table and all the links in each device Links table and replaces the old device's address with the new device's address. If being in a folder affects the device being replaced, I'm not sure why it wouldn't affect any other device having its Links table update. This would seem to matchup with your experience whereby after replacing the device you can control it, but it doesn't seem to have any connection to other devices in the scene. Or it may be, as you sorta touched on, that the problem is the scenes being in a folder. I don't know, but just wanted to add to the conversation in case it sparked something from the memories of other longtime forum members. Probably too late now, but it would be interesting to have a copy of the PLM Links table, and the Links table from several of the devices in the scene both before and after the device was replaced. That would allow us to tell exactly what is, and isn't happening. Just as importantly, if you were to submit a bug report to UD, it would be very helpful to them, I think. Edit: Actually, on second look, maybe the device you circled is in a folder called "Main". On my ISY, devices that aren't in a folder have nothing in the folder column. Edited January 27, 2023 by kclenden
EJones01 Posted January 27, 2023 Author Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) Thanks...this does make sense if true. This needs updating if so. ISY-99i/ISY-26 INSTEON:Replacing a Device - Universal Devices, Inc. Wiki (universal-devices.com) I have a couple more devices to replace so I'll move everything out of folders and see what happens Edited January 27, 2023 by EJones01
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