Z-Wave Somfy/Bali blinds

[walkman9999]

Just getting started with this, and following instructions found in the link below. The goal is to have both the EISY and the included z-wave remote control the blinds. 

I added the blinds to EISY and can control them as expected. I then followed the instructions to pair the Bali premium remote control to the EISY and this succeeded as well. Following the instructions, I then paired the remote control to the blinds which is successful. The remote works as expected until I use EISY to control the shade, at that point the remote stops being able to control the blinds while the EISY still can. [minor edit to describe things better]

It is as if the blinds can only be paired to a single controller, although the link (and Bali's support folks) say otherwise.

I'm looking for any insight into what I should be looking for, any tests that may show what is happening, or really a better understanding of the process (e.g., why does remote have to be paired to EISY?)

Haven't found much in the forum, hoping someone has worked through this and can help.

Attached is a screenshot of the EISY console.

TY

Edited February 24 by walkman9999

[MMAltair]

I purchased Bali blinds about a year ago and purchased the Bali Z-Wave controller. I was able to pair the blinds with the Bali controller without problems and then paired the blinds with the remote as a secondary controller (associate), again no problems. Over the past year the Bali controller has been a problem and I no longer use it to control the blinds, just the remote.

Now the batteries need to be recharged so I decided to try and pair the blinds with my EISY/Z-Wave/Matter and so far am not having any luck getting the shades to pair with EISY. My shades have to pair through a Z-Wave extender (AEOTEC range extender 6) due to the distance from the Matter device. The range extender shows a good connection to the Z-Wave network so I don't believe it is a problem.

Is it possible to pair the Bali shades through a range extender (which supports S0/S2 inclusion)? I know that my Schlage locks have to be paired right next to the Matter controller but then work fine through a range extender which has secure inclusion (S2).

If I manage to get the shades paired with EISY I'll try to duplicate the problem reported by walkman9999.

Mike

 

[walkman9999]

I don't have an answer for you, but I can share a few tidbits. Caveat is that I'm new to Z-Wave, so keep that in mind.

I use the AEOTEC range extender for a door alarm that is too far away for the native EISY to reach. When I added it to the network, a side effect was that my shades became much more predictable. Unfortunately, I don't know how to tell if the shades are being reached natively or through the extender. I know they are not actively paired to the extender, they are paired directly with EISY.

Not sure if this helps since you may have distance issues between blinds and EISY but the key for me to pair the shades to both the remote and the EISY was unlocked in this post. 

Hope some of this helps.

[MMAltair]

I did finally get a shade paired with EISY by not following the Bali motorization instructions. As defined in the manual I first deleted all Z-Wave pairing in the shade by pressing the 'program' button for 7 seconds (basically a 'reset' function to delete all previous pairing). I then had to 'exclude' the shade from pairing with the remote using the exclude function in the remote and again pressing the 'program' button on the shade (this is a new step not specified in the Bali manual). Once I did this I could then 'add' the shade to EISY using the Z-Wave 'add' commend. There must be some residual pairing left in the shade even after doing the Z-Wave the 'reset' function in the shade. My guess is the Bali instructions only apply to a shade that has never been included in a Z-Wave network in the past.

Unfortunately I had already added all the other shades back to the remote without EISY first being added as the primary controller and didn't have time to go back through all the excluding and including again. As a result I wasn't able to test the functionality of both EISY and the Bali remote being able to control the shades independently. When I have more time I'll go back and try this again as I want the functionality EISY provides in addition to having the Bali remote for control.

Mike