eisy upgrade, what am I getting?

[HTTRC]

Coming from an ISY994i perspective, what am I gaining by moving to eisy?

Please don’t give the marketing pitch.  Speed, performance,chipset, HDMI port, etc.  The hardware platform doesn’t interest me whatsoever compared to the software.  What is my experience going to be like?

I’m only interested in maintaining my Insteon devices.  Not interested in Zwave, Zigbee, Matter, Thread, or any other dongle tech.  At least not eisy approach.  I’m all about managing my Insteon network.  Adding, removing, linking devices creating scenes etc. 

Is eisy running a Java app built from what the ISY used?  Is it the same look and feel as the Java app?  If there was a delay in showing a menu when doing a “right click” in the ISY gui, will that also be in eisy gui?  If one were critical of the ISY gui, will they be likely to be critical of the eisy?

Can you easily replace Insteon dimmer switches?  Do you have to remove an item from it’s folder before you can issue the replace command?

[Techman]

If you're happy with your Model T then there's no point in moving up to a Ferrari

There's a new UI in development that doesn't require Java but will only work with the eisy.

The ISY994, the Polisy and the EISY all use the same Java based UI via the IoX Launcher

All devices must be removed from a folder for the replace command to work.

Edited yesterday at 01:35 AM by Techman

[HTTRC]

1 hour ago, Techman said:

All devices must be removed from a folder for the replace commmand to work.

Is this not an issue for anyone else?  It makes any attempt to use a folder hierarchy practically impractical.  Replacing dead switches is a royal pain in the ***.  It shouldn’t be.  
 

ETA: disability issues compound the problems.

Edited yesterday at 01:31 AM by HTTRC

[oberkc]

The only isnsteon benefit to migrating is the use of the newest (i3?) devices.  I understand that the ISY does not support them.  I also vaguely recall that the price for the portal subscription is higher, should you use it and that tech support from UD is discontinued for ISY.  I do not recall any other immediate benefit to insteon-only users.

[hart2hart]

The knowledge of how to migrate from one platform to the next ages / gets dim quickly. Therefore, you may wake up one day to a relatively complex task with little current support. Same story for all technology and especially when it’s getting to be 10-15 years old.

[HTTRC]

9 hours ago, oberkc said:

The only isnsteon benefit to migrating is the use of the newest (i3?) devices.  I understand that the ISY does not support them.  I also vaguely recall that the price for the portal subscription is higher, should you use it and that tech support from UD is discontinued for ISY.  I do not recall any other immediate benefit to insteon-only users.

i3 lol, Insteon is getting big for its britches are they?  I see they have a new hub.  I’m so glad I skipped their last iteration.

I remember when the UDI portal launched.  I hooked up my “Barry White” scene with “Alexa, let’s get it on!” It was like the angels singing, voice command like you’d only see in the movies.  While the portal was nice for a couple of years, I eventually off loaded to HomeAssistant.  While UDI has the only viable solution for programming Insteon switches to work together without a hub, there’s too many workarounds needed for my likes.  But it’s nice to know that if push comes to shove, I can just throw some money at the problem and get my network running again.

8 hours ago, hart2hart said:

The knowledge of how to migrate from one platform to the next ages / gets dim quickly. Therefore, you may wake up one day to a relatively complex task with little current support. Same story for all technology and especially when it’s getting to be 10-15 years old.

Fortunately, as long as there are houses with Insteon switches, and they pay to keep the lights on this place will outlive me.