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KeypadLinc to control hot water heater


mdyod

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Posted

Hello All,

 

I have a button on my KeypadLinc controlling my hot water heater with a 240V Load Control NO.

 

I have them linked using the scene tool...

 

I need the Keypadlinc Button's LED to indicate when the water heater is on. It works fine when manually turning the heater on using the keypadlinc button or the button on the Load Control....

 

However, when I turn the water heater on using a ISY99 program or iPhone the LED on the Keypad doesn't turn on to indicate that the heater is on...

 

What am i missing?

 

THANKS in advance for your help

Posted

If an ISY Scene what devices are in the Scene and how were each added to the Scene, as a Responder or a Controller.

 

If turning on the Load Controller with a Program the KeypadLinc button will not turn On. To turn the Load Controller and the KeypadLinc button On, turn the Scene On that has the KeypadLinc button as a Controller and the Load Controller as either a Controller or Responder.

Posted

Do a Show Device Links Table for the KeypadLinc and the Load Controller and post the results. Posting the Saved XML file will be fine.

 

Also post the Program that is turning On the Scene.

Posted

If

From 6:00:00AM

To 7:15:00AM (same day)

Or From 5:45:00PM

To 7:15:00PM (same day)

 

Then

Set 'Downstairs H2O Heater' On

Set 'Down Stairs H2O Switch' On 2 / Off 2 (Backlight Level)

 

Else

Set 'Downstairs H2O Heater' Off

 

***** In this latest version I even tried turning them both on...

Posted

Excuse my ignorance but how do i go about posting the device links table saved xml file?

 

Also, the only device that is in the list for creating a device links table is the heater controller - The Keypad linc switch that i'm using is not available in the "drop down" list...

 

Thanks Again for your help

D

Posted

No need. The Program cannot do what you want as coded. A Secondary KeypadLinc button cannot be turned On/Off with Insteon Direct commands. The Action statement is changing the backlight level of the entire KeypadLinc. It is not capable of turning On/Off a Secondary button.

 

I assume you defined an ISY Scene with the KeypadLinc button and Load Controller. Use that Scene name in a Set Scene xxxxx On in place of the two statement in the Then clause and a Set Scene xxxx Off in the Else clause.

 

EDIT: FYI - the Primary KeypadLinc node has to be used for the Show Device Links Table (which we no longer need). There are a number of right button functions that can only be applied to the Primary node.

Posted

ok i will try that when i get home --

 

Also - when i turn on the scene ising my ipone app the button led dosent work - any ideas on that?

Posted

Use the Admin Console to turn the Scene On/Off. That eliminates one of the variables. If the Scene does not work through the Admin Console then were back to needing the Show Device Links Table for the KeypadLinc and the Load Controller. Could be a link record has been lost or not successfully written to begin with. Could be communications problem between the ISY PLM and the KeypadLinc.

 

After the Show Device Links Table completes for the KeypadLinc click the Compare button. That will produce another popup comparing the links found in the KeypadLinc against what the ISY thinks should be there. That may answer the link record question.

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Will do - But First...

 

 

Excuse my ignorance but how do i go about posting the device links table saved xml file?

 

Also, the only device that is in the list for creating a device links table is the heater controller - The Keypad linc switch that i'm using is not available in the "drop down" list...

 

D

Posted

Edit the XML file with something like Wordpad. Select all the date and Copy. Then Paste to the forum. The KeypadLinc Primary node is used to initiate the Show Device Links Table.

Posted

Device Links Table : Downstairs H2O Heater / 1A C6 28 1

4088

226

1

1833685

16719617

4080

162

22

1833685

16719617

4072

226

1

1940027

16719617

4064

162

3

1940027

16719617

4056

0

0

0

0

Posted

btw The water heater or the switch LED does not turn on/off when the scene os turned on and off using the admin console...

Posted

Issue the following REST command through a browser command line. Adjust the IP address as needed. It will display all the Scenes.

 

http://192.168.2.4/rest/nodes/scenes

 

Scroll down until you find the Scene being used and Copy the following Scene information to a forum post

 

25811

SceneFloorFanlincMed

62

L09

-

15 9A F9 3

15 9A F9 4

15 9A F9 5

15 9A F9 6

Posted

Okay, thanks. Let’s do this a little different. Run Tools | Diagnostics | Event Viewer with Level 3. Right click on Scene name, select Diagnostics | Scene Test. Post the event trace.

 

The Load Controller link records show button D (assuming 8 button KeypadLinc) will turn On/Off the Load Controller. There is also a responder link for Scene 22 (0x16) which I think is the ISY Scene. The REST information would have provided the Scene number. The Scene Test will also. In addition the Scene Test will show if the ISY PLM is able to communicate with both the KeypadLinc button D and the Load Controller under good conditions.

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Wed 08/01/2012 08:56:45 PM : [GRP-RX ] 02 61 16 13 00 06

 

Wed 08/01/2012 08:56:46 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.9A.3B 19.73.80 E1 13 FF LTOFFRR(FF)

 

Wed 08/01/2012 08:56:46 PM : [CLEAN-UP-RPT] 02 58 06

 

Wed 08/01/2012 08:56:46 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1A.C6.28 19.73.80 61 13 FF LTOFFRR(FF)

 

Wed 08/01/2012 08:56:46 PM : [standard-Cleanup Ack][1A.C6.28-->19.73.80] Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0

 

----- H20 Down Stairs Test Results -----

[Failed] Down Stairs H2O Switch (1D 9A 3B 3)

[succeeded] Downstairs H2O Heater (1A C6 28 1)

----- H20 Down Stairs Test Results -----

Wed 08/01/2012 08:56:53 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.16 CF 13 00 06 LTOFFRR(00)

 

Thanks :)

Posted

Looks like either a link record problem in the KeypadLinc or a communications problem between the ISY PLM and the KeypadLinc location. Run the Show Device Links Table against the KeypadLinc and when the display is complete, click the Compare button. This will produce another display showing what links are there versus what the ISY think is should be there.

Posted

All the KeypadLinc nodes are shown in the left pane of the Admin Console Main tab. Right click on the PRIMARY KeypadLinc node, select Diagnostics | Show Device Links Table.

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All links were labeled as "Identical" in the report....

 

Device Links Table : Kitchen Light / 1D 9A 3B 1

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162

0

1833685

16719617

4080

226

1

1833685

16719617

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226

2

1833685

16719618

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226

3

1833685

16719619

4056

226

4

1833685

16719620

4048

226

5

1833685

16719621

4040

226

6

1833685

16719622

4032

226

7

1833685

16719623

4024

226

8

1833685

16719624

4016

162

20

1833685

16719618

4008

226

2

1247336

16719618

4000

226

2

1231090

16719618

3992

162

22

1833685

16719619

3984

162

1

1754664

16719619

3976

226

3

1754664

16719619

3968

0

0

0

0

Posted

The Scene Test is reporting status to a PLM with address 19.73.80.

 

Wed 08/01/2012 08:56:46 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.9A.3B 19.73.80 E1 13 FF LTOFFRR(FF)

 

The KeypadLinc link record shows the PLM address as 1B.FA.D5

 

0F98 : A2 16 1B.FA.D5 FF 1F 03

 

Was the PLM replaced at some point?

 

Run Tools | Diagnostics | PLM Info/Status to confirm the PLM address is 19.73.80

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