mdyod Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Hello All, I have a button on my KeypadLinc controlling my hot water heater with a 240V Load Control NO. I have them linked using the scene tool... I need the Keypadlinc Button's LED to indicate when the water heater is on. It works fine when manually turning the heater on using the keypadlinc button or the button on the Load Control.... However, when I turn the water heater on using a ISY99 program or iPhone the LED on the Keypad doesn't turn on to indicate that the heater is on... What am i missing? THANKS in advance for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 If an ISY Scene what devices are in the Scene and how were each added to the Scene, as a Responder or a Controller. If turning on the Load Controller with a Program the KeypadLinc button will not turn On. To turn the Load Controller and the KeypadLinc button On, turn the Scene On that has the KeypadLinc button as a Controller and the Load Controller as either a Controller or Responder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdyod Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 I have tried the switch button as a controller / and the heater module as both.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Do a Show Device Links Table for the KeypadLinc and the Load Controller and post the results. Posting the Saved XML file will be fine. Also post the Program that is turning On the Scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdyod Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 If From 6:00:00AM To 7:15:00AM (same day) Or From 5:45:00PM To 7:15:00PM (same day) Then Set 'Downstairs H2O Heater' On Set 'Down Stairs H2O Switch' On 2 / Off 2 (Backlight Level) Else Set 'Downstairs H2O Heater' Off ***** In this latest version I even tried turning them both on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdyod Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 Excuse my ignorance but how do i go about posting the device links table saved xml file? Also, the only device that is in the list for creating a device links table is the heater controller - The Keypad linc switch that i'm using is not available in the "drop down" list... Thanks Again for your help D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 No need. The Program cannot do what you want as coded. A Secondary KeypadLinc button cannot be turned On/Off with Insteon Direct commands. The Action statement is changing the backlight level of the entire KeypadLinc. It is not capable of turning On/Off a Secondary button. I assume you defined an ISY Scene with the KeypadLinc button and Load Controller. Use that Scene name in a Set Scene xxxxx On in place of the two statement in the Then clause and a Set Scene xxxx Off in the Else clause. EDIT: FYI - the Primary KeypadLinc node has to be used for the Show Device Links Table (which we no longer need). There are a number of right button functions that can only be applied to the Primary node. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdyod Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 ok i will try that when i get home -- Also - when i turn on the scene ising my ipone app the button led dosent work - any ideas on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Use the Admin Console to turn the Scene On/Off. That eliminates one of the variables. If the Scene does not work through the Admin Console then were back to needing the Show Device Links Table for the KeypadLinc and the Load Controller. Could be a link record has been lost or not successfully written to begin with. Could be communications problem between the ISY PLM and the KeypadLinc. After the Show Device Links Table completes for the KeypadLinc click the Compare button. That will produce another popup comparing the links found in the KeypadLinc against what the ISY thinks should be there. That may answer the link record question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdyod Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 Will do - But First... Excuse my ignorance but how do i go about posting the device links table saved xml file? Also, the only device that is in the list for creating a device links table is the heater controller - The Keypad linc switch that i'm using is not available in the "drop down" list... D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Edit the XML file with something like Wordpad. Select all the date and Copy. Then Paste to the forum. The KeypadLinc Primary node is used to initiate the Show Device Links Table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdyod Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 Device Links Table : Downstairs H2O Heater / 1A C6 28 1 4088 226 1 1833685 16719617 4080 162 22 1833685 16719617 4072 226 1 1940027 16719617 4064 162 3 1940027 16719617 4056 0 0 0 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdyod Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 btw The water heater or the switch LED does not turn on/off when the scene os turned on and off using the admin console... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Issue the following REST command through a browser command line. Adjust the IP address as needed. It will display all the Scenes. http://192.168.2.4/rest/nodes/scenes Scroll down until you find the Scene being used and Copy the following Scene information to a forum post 25811 SceneFloorFanlincMed 62 L09 - 15 9A F9 3 15 9A F9 4 15 9A F9 5 15 9A F9 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdyod Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 This is what i got... H20 Down Stairs22C121A C6 28 11D 9A 3B 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 H20 Down Stairs22C121A C6 28 11D 9A 3B 3 Sorry, I don't know what that is. What was run to produce that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdyod Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 http://10.0.1.2/rest/nodes/scenes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Okay, thanks. Let’s do this a little different. Run Tools | Diagnostics | Event Viewer with Level 3. Right click on Scene name, select Diagnostics | Scene Test. Post the event trace. The Load Controller link records show button D (assuming 8 button KeypadLinc) will turn On/Off the Load Controller. There is also a responder link for Scene 22 (0x16) which I think is the ISY Scene. The REST information would have provided the Scene number. The Scene Test will also. In addition the Scene Test will show if the ISY PLM is able to communicate with both the KeypadLinc button D and the Load Controller under good conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdyod Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 Wed 08/01/2012 08:56:45 PM : [GRP-RX ] 02 61 16 13 00 06 Wed 08/01/2012 08:56:46 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.9A.3B 19.73.80 E1 13 FF LTOFFRR(FF) Wed 08/01/2012 08:56:46 PM : [CLEAN-UP-RPT] 02 58 06 Wed 08/01/2012 08:56:46 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1A.C6.28 19.73.80 61 13 FF LTOFFRR(FF) Wed 08/01/2012 08:56:46 PM : [standard-Cleanup Ack][1A.C6.28-->19.73.80] Max Hops=1, Hops Left=0 ----- H20 Down Stairs Test Results ----- [Failed] Down Stairs H2O Switch (1D 9A 3B 3) [succeeded] Downstairs H2O Heater (1A C6 28 1) ----- H20 Down Stairs Test Results ----- Wed 08/01/2012 08:56:53 PM : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 00.00.16 CF 13 00 06 LTOFFRR(00) Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Looks like either a link record problem in the KeypadLinc or a communications problem between the ISY PLM and the KeypadLinc location. Run the Show Device Links Table against the KeypadLinc and when the display is complete, click the Compare button. This will produce another display showing what links are there versus what the ISY think is should be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdyod Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 As before - the keypadlinc is not on the in the drop down list therefore i can run the show device links table... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 All the KeypadLinc nodes are shown in the left pane of the Admin Console Main tab. Right click on the PRIMARY KeypadLinc node, select Diagnostics | Show Device Links Table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdyod Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 All links were labeled as "Identical" in the report.... Device Links Table : Kitchen Light / 1D 9A 3B 1 4088 162 0 1833685 16719617 4080 226 1 1833685 16719617 4072 226 2 1833685 16719618 4064 226 3 1833685 16719619 4056 226 4 1833685 16719620 4048 226 5 1833685 16719621 4040 226 6 1833685 16719622 4032 226 7 1833685 16719623 4024 226 8 1833685 16719624 4016 162 20 1833685 16719618 4008 226 2 1247336 16719618 4000 226 2 1231090 16719618 3992 162 22 1833685 16719619 3984 162 1 1754664 16719619 3976 226 3 1754664 16719619 3968 0 0 0 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeG Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 The Scene Test is reporting status to a PLM with address 19.73.80. Wed 08/01/2012 08:56:46 PM : [iNST-SRX ] 02 50 1D.9A.3B 19.73.80 E1 13 FF LTOFFRR(FF) The KeypadLinc link record shows the PLM address as 1B.FA.D5 0F98 : A2 16 1B.FA.D5 FF 1F 03 Was the PLM replaced at some point? Run Tools | Diagnostics | PLM Info/Status to confirm the PLM address is 19.73.80 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdyod Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 PLM is 1d.fa.d5 PLM was replaced a few months ago - Keypadlinc is brand new just added a week ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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