isy99 + keypadlinc + remotelinc

[jjwinston]

Hi Everyone,

 

Just got my isy99i and I am loving it. However, I came across an odd situation.

 

I have a 6 KPL and I have built scenes for each of the four buttons that contol the load and two other devices in a room. Only one of the buttons should be on at a time so I built these scenes so that the kpl buttons not active have an on level of 0. I got the kpl working perfectly. Then I added my Remotelinc as another controller in the scene. It does turn on the correct keypad, but all the four keypads are lit. For some reason it seems that the other keypads in the scene do not act as responders to the Remotelinc as they do for the keypads.

 

This is a more than a year old KPL and Remotelinc.

 

I am not using the "button grouping" since the software appears to warn against using this feature.

 

Thanks for any suggestions.

[LeeG]

Each Scene Controller has unique Responder values. Click on a RemoteLinc button node name below the Scene name and verify the other Secondary KeypadLinc buttons have the correct 0% On Level.

 

What is the KeypadLinc firmware level? It is displayed on the second line in the right pane when a KeypadLinc button is selected in the My Lighting tree. Only relatively new KeypadLincs have the function to turn a Secondary button Off with an On command from another Controller.

 

What ISY firmware is being used? (Help | About shows Firmware and UI levels)

[LeeG]

Assuming the Responder On Levels are set to 0% for the Secondary KeypadLinc buttons and assuming the KeypadLinc firmware does not support an On command from another controller turning Off a Secondary KeypadLinc button, the standard solution is to use ISY Programs and additional Scenes.

 

An ISY Program is triggered by a button B On press. The Program issues a Set Scene Off for a Scene that has Secondary buttons A,C,D as Responders. This turns Off the other Secondary buttons. Need a Program and Scene for each of the Secondary buttons. This is the solution that has been used for years until SmartLabs added support for turning a Secondary button Off with an On command from another Controller.

 

An easy alternative is to replace the KeypadLinc with a new one, moving the old KeypadLinc to a location where the Secondary buttons do not have to operate in one On only mode.

[jjwinston]

Thanks for the replies.

 

ISY reports my Remotelinc as (2440) Remotelinc v.00

ISY reports the Keypadlinc as (2486D) Keypadlinc Dimmer 6 buttons v.36

ISY firmware is 3.2.6

 

The Remotelinc works fine with the scenes I have made for a couple of the buttons (for other devices). I did not make a new scene just for the Remotelinc to operate with the Keypadlinc which I will probably try. I did try to generate a program and that does not seem to work at all. Here is the latest that I wrote:

 

If

Control '13.EA.20.4' is switched On

Then

Set Scene 'Library - Setting C' On

Else

No Actions

 

The ISY sees the status change coming from the Remotelinc.

[LeeG]

The RemoteLinc firmware does not matter.

 

The KeypadLinc is too old to support turning a Secondary KeypadLinc button Off with an On command from another Controller (RemoteLinc in this case)

 

The Set Scene in the Program should issue a Set Scene 'xxxxx' Off to turn Off Secondary KeypadLinc buttons. The RemoteLinc button should remain a Controller in the Existing Scene.

 

Adding a RemoteLinc button as a Controller to the existing ISY Scene is the correct thing to do. Making a separate Scene with the RemoteLinc button as Controller and Secondary KeypadLinc button(s) as Responders will not work any better. A V.36 KeypadLinc does not have the function for an On command to turn Off a Secondary KeypadLinc button. That function was introduced with v.40 firmware.

 

If you do pick up a new KeypadLinc to replace the one in use now, remember to check the Responder On Levels for 0% On when the RemoteLinc button node below the ISY Scene name is selected. The KeypadLinc button as Controller has the correct On Levels for the KPL buttons to have one On only. The RemoteLinc button as Controller has its own set of On levels which also must be set to 0% On just as was done for the KeypadLinc button as Controller.

[jjwinston]

Absolutely the problem is the old KPL. I did make a new scene for the RemoteLinc to use and it works fine. Of course it can not control any of the buttons on the KPL6 (interestingly, when I add one of the buttons to this scene with the RemoteLinc as the controller and the button as the responder, the button level options do not even appear for the RemoreLinc to control). So, until I can upgrade this KPL6, I will have to live with the situation.

 

Thanks for the input. Knowing something is working correctly, even if it is not what you want, is one of the biggest problems in being a newbie.