Scene or program?

[pkeberly]

Hi all, I'm a newbie to Insteon and the ISY-99. So far I just love it, but I just can't seem to get my idea to work correctly.

I'm not sure if it can be a scene, need to be written as a program, both, or some other way that I haven't learned yet.

 

We have 5 kitchen cans (main) on one dimmer, and a single can (nite) on another dimmer. I also have 2 other dimmers that are virtual 4 ways to the main.

Our concept is when the 5 main lights are on/off, the nite lite follows along. When the nite dimmer is pressed, the mains go off and the nite is dimmed down.

 

I have the 4 way as a scene, and the nite dimming as a scene. All works as planned except for the dimming of the nite, it goes to 100%.

 

Any ideas on what I'm doing wrong here?

 

Thanks,

Paul

[LeeG]

If the night dimmer paddle is being pressed and the night can should come on dim it is the On Level (applied locally) value that affects the night dimmer On Level. Click the night dimmer node in the My Lighting tree. Adjust the On Level (applied locally) slider to the desired level.

[pkeberly]

Thanks Lee, that's the way I had it, and it doesn't seem to work?

A local press goes to 100%. An ISY ON and it goes to 30%. I suspect I have a conflict in the other 4 way scene.

 

I did a link table compare and have two ignores that are valid devices, I'll dig a bit deeper into that.

 

Happy Thanksgiving,

 

Paul

[LeeG]

If the SwitchLinc is already On at a lower level a paddle press will turn it On full. SmartLabs considers that a feature. If the SwitchLinc was Off when the paddle is pressed and it goes to 100% rather than a lower value set in On Level (Applied Locally), it could be the Local On Level is not being set correctly.

 

Right click the SwitchLinc node, select Diagnostics | Query Insteon Engine. Now set the On Level (Applied Locally) slider to some other position so the ISY will write a new value to the SwitchLinc. When the Progress Bar completes move the slider to the desired On Level. It is necessary to change the slider position as the ISY will not rewrite a value it thinks is already in the device.

 

If the Show Links Table says Ignore it could be a deleted link record (22 or 62 in first byte) which the ISY is indicating is ignored or if the last record displayed, it is the End Of List record of which only the first byte being 00 is important. The other 7 bytes can have data left over from another link which has no functional value.

[pkeberly]

Now I'm really confused... I've been playing with the settings to try and get what I want. The dimmers seemed to do things that the ISY scene and program don't ask for. I deleted and installed the nite dimmer, with remove existing links checked. The other dimmers appeared to remember the removed dimmer, but the membership tree doesn't have the Nite dimmer in any device?

 

I pulled up a device link table and the Nite dimmer is in there? A compare shows all identical so ISY thinks it should be there (I assume?)

Is the device membership tree the same as a device link table?

Is there a place to edit the link table to remove any errant links?

 

Thanks,

[LeeG]

The Device Link Table creates/reflects the membership relationship.

 

If the other devices were not removed from the Scene they still have half/broken links which can cause them to both respond and control the device that was Deleted and added back with erase existing links. It is best to add all devices using the erase existing links option to avoid half/broken links that can exist in devices.

 

EDIT: sorry I missed a question. There is no facility to manage the device links table at the individual link level. Devices added to the ISY with the erase existing links option insures the link table will start clean and correct and remain that way. Trying to manipulate individual link records often results in more problems rather than solve them.

[LeeG]

I don't think my previous answer was correctly phrased (it was wrong!).

 

When a device is added to an ISY Scene a link record is created in the Device Links Table and the device is added to the membership list. It is the adding of the device to the Scene that drives the process.

[pitterlee]

I think the dark setting on the V2 motion sensor is reversed compared to a V1 motion sensor. The text on the motion sensor options popup is correct for a V2 motion sensor.