Simple program stopped working

[Chuck]

I have a simple program which always worked in the past that now does not:

 

If
       Control 'Living Room - ALL OFF' is switched On
    Or Control 'Office Ceiling Light (load)' is switched Fast Off
    Or (
            Status  'Office Ceiling Light (load)' is Off
        And Control 'Office Ceiling Light (load)' is switched Off
       )

Then
       Set Scene 'All Off Scene (Daytime)' Off

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

If 'Office Ceiling Light (load)' is pressed off while the status is already off the scene should run, but it doesn't and the Program Summary says the program status is False vs. if I douple tap the 'Office Ceiling Light (load)' the Program status is True and the Scene is activated. I can't figure this one out. Any ideas???

 

Thanks!

[IndyMike]

Hello Chuck,

 

From what I can see, your Status and Control statements below can't be satisfied with the same event. The light can't be off and switched off at the same time. I tried the below code with varying ramp rates to try to ensure that there wasn't some trick involved - could not get it to execute.

 

The below will function with an "or" between the status and control.

 

You mentioned that this worked at one time - I honestly can't see how. Is it possible that you modified the program and didn't save it? Be advised that beta 2.6.1 did not save programs with it's "backup feature. Programs could only be saved with an explicit export.

 

IM

 

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    Or (
            Status  'Office Ceiling Light (load)' is Off
        And Control 'Office Ceiling Light (load)' is switched Off
       )

Then
       Set Scene 'All Off Scene (Daytime)' Off

[Algorithm]

Actually, it should work. This is one way of getting extra function from a single switch, making it dual-purpose, which is how it appears Chuck is using it.

 

I just tested it here (the status and control portion), and it works fine. I tried switch is on and is switched on, then turn another load on; if switch if off and is switched off, then turn the other load off.

 

Chuck, have you made any changes recently? Updated firmware, or any thing else?

[Chuck]

It works again. I realized my time was off. It thought it was Saturday. I thought I updated the time when I upgraded to 2.6.2, but must not have...

Thanks for your help.

 

Chuck

[Algorithm]

It works again. I realized my time was off. It thought it was Saturday. I thought I updated the time when I upgraded to 2.6.2, but must not have...

Thanks for your help.

 

Chuck

 

My pleasure. Thanks for the update, Chuck.

[IndyMike]

Chuck and Darrel,

 

Sorry for the misinformation. Obviously (hindsight) the below is incorrect - you can turn an Insteon device off if it is already in the off state. I honestly never considered this before. I guess my "old school" brain isn't wired that way.

 

Also seems that I may have some holes to plug in my programming...

 

IM

 

From what I can see, your Status and Control statements below can't be satisfied with the same event. The light can't be off and switched off at the same time.

[Algorithm]

Hi Indy!

 

No problem. Thanks for all your contributions to the forum; they are appreciated.

[d_l]

Chuck, thanks for that "Status is Off and Control is switched Off" idea. I've used it to enable a "forced off" condition on some ToggleLinc switches that are activated by motion sensors. When the wind blows hard, these switches turn on repeatedly at night so I've just decided that they should be off for the wind duration.

 

Program Content for 'Manual Porch Switch Off'

If
       Status  'Front Porch Light' is Off
   And Control 'Front Porch Light' is switched Off

Then
       Wait  8 hours 
       Run Program 'Manual Porch Switch Off' (Else Path)

Else
  - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

I put that timer on the program so the forced off condition won't last forever if I forget that I have initiated it. This 'Manual Porch Switch Off' program then becomes a tested condition in the motion sensor program that switches the porch light on and if true, the light is not allowed to be switched on. I also have a complementary program, 'Manual Porch Switch On', that forces the lights to be on and not be turned off by the motion sensors.