Triggerlinc woes - some work, some dont

[LeeG]

RichTJ99

 

Thanks, 992 is the key number. The PLM link database is full. Run File | Restore Modem (PLM) which should compress out duplicate and no longer used links. When the Restore Modem (PLM) is done run another Show PLM Links Table with Count to verify that the PLM now has substantially less than 992 links. If the number remains at 992 then the number of Scenes has to be reduced to make room for additional device links.

 

EDIT: 992 is the maximum number of links the 2413 will store despite what the sales page spec indicates. I've tested this on a number of different 2413 PLMs. The very lowest storage area is reserved for PLM firmware use so it is not available to store link records.

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[RichTJ99]

I am all set after the restore. I have 560 links after 3 tries.

 

I also added 5 more trigger/motion devices so I am back in business! Thanks so much for solving the mystery!

[LeeG]

Thanks for posting the results. Glad to hear things are working.

[Xathros]

RichTJ99-

 

Going way back to near the beginning of this thread, you indicated Trigger 8 missing an address label. Here is your solution to ID Trigger 8: Pick one of your swtichlincs and do a show device links. Make a screenshot of the table or write down the links if only a few. Then, manually (set button) link Trigger 8 with that switch. When done, do a display links on that switch again and look for a new address that wasn't there before. That is the address of trigger 8. Now you can factory reset trigger 8 and restore device on the switch to remove the extra unwanted links.

 

HTH

 

-Xathros

[RichTJ99]

Is there a PLM that will do more than 992 links? I have added a number of scenes and other devices & seem to be back at 882 which doesnt leave me much room for expansion.

[LeeG]

The old 2412S supported 2000+ physically but there were issues with the speed of the PLM searching the link database when the number of links approached 1000+. The 2413 resolved the problem by reducing to number of links supported and using a faster processor.

 

Try another Restore Modem (PLM). You may find that some of those link records are compressed out.

[RichTJ99]

So we had an expansion project & I added about 40 more switches and am well beyond the 1000 links.  Is there anything I can do?  The ISY or PLM seems to be non responsive.  

 

Do scenes use links?  Are there things i can do to lessen the load?

[Xathros]

Yes, scenes add links. Delete unnecessary scenes. Combine other scenes if possible. Then, You can do a restore PLM to compress out deleted links.

[LeeG]

A Scene uses link records.   Scenes are the only thing that use link records.   Keep in mind that Scenes are used between a device and the PLM for the ISY to be aware of device operation so Scenes are not limited to those created by the user.

 

A 2413 PLM supports  992 link records.  

 

First suggestion is to run a Restore Modem (PLM)  which will compress out no longer used and duplicate links.   Then run a Show PLM Links Table a few times to see how many link records are actually being used.  Forty SwitchLincs would use 80 link records initially so that  many new devices may not have raised the link count significantly.  KeypadLincs use one link per button so 40 new 8 button KeypadLincs would bump the link count by 320.

[LeeG]

I went back and read this topic from the beginning even though it went back to 2012.   The 2413 PLM has not changed, it supports 992 links as it did in 2012.   Nothing has changed regarding Scenes and link records.   Insteon works today as it did in 2012.  What required a link in 2012 continues to need a link today.   

 

If the PLM links (992) have been consumed and cannot be reduced two ISYs running separate parts of the house could be an option.   It is not a canned solution.   Network communication between the ISYs would likely be needed unless the house can be separated where neither ISY would need to know about the other.  Not a plug-an-play solution.