jca001

I do not have any other modules installed. Mine is a base ISY99i.

I had the problem today while trouble shooting another problem as to why programs were not running in a folder with a schedule condition on the folder. I was looking at the next scheduled time for the folder and the programs and was just looking at the time part. Then I noticed the year was wrong. It would seem the way the ISY-99i schedules certain things is to evaluate the schedule condition and then get the current time and add them and put that as the time it will run next. The when the time is met it runs. Well after doing that and then indicating it would run next at 2009/09/18 11:00 AM and then have the clock changed to 1941 it is going to be a very long time before the scheduled time is met. I will second the statement made by the first poster, the time should NOT be changed if it is plus or minus a certain value. This could be an option that can be set when you enable NTP. Then if the change would exceeds the threshold the notify feature could be used to alert someone. Along with this and/or if the notify feature is not being used, the red LED could be set to blink. Based on the last idea, there may be other things that should use the notify feature and blink the red LED and should be configurable. Then there would have to be an option to stop the blinking or automatically after 24 hours and no other new error conditions have happened.

Chris: That defeats the purpose of putting programs in folders and then having a condition on the folder. The example you have given is just using the folder as a variable. My main reason for using a condition on a folder and then putting programs in the folder was to structure / organize the programs and allow me to make adjustments in one place and not several. The example I have provided is just the start of things I plan to do. A program with no condition seems to always be false. I really should not have to have a condition in each program if the folder is controlling when the programs should run. There should be a condition of just true. But I can see that could cause some problems if the program was at the main level or the folder was always true, because there was no folder condition.

Markens: I do have a condition in the program of between sunrise and sunset. So if the condition on the folder is met, then it should evaluate the condition of the program and run the then part. But it does not. Before I set this up I did some testing of conditions on folders. It was not a scheduled condition, but a status of a RemoteLinc button. Then in the folder I put a couple of programs that ran if a button on a KeypadLinc was pressed. In other words if RemoteLinc Button 6 was on and I pressed button 2 on the KeypadLinc turn on an ApplienceLinc. That worked. If RemoteLinc button 6 was off, then pressing button 2 on the KeypadLinc did nothing. It did what I expected it to do based on what I have read. So the conditions are different but the concept is the same. If the status of the folder is true, then evaluate the condition in the programs and act accordingly.

Thanks for the suggestion. Here is what I tried, but it does not work for some reason. I created a folder called "Hourly 0900 to 1700" with: If Time is 9:00:00AM Or Time is 10:32:00AM Or Time is 11:00:00AM Or Time is 12:00:00PM Or Time is 1:00:00PM Or Time is 2:00:00PM Or Time is 3:00:00PM Or Time is 4:00:00PM Or Time is 5:00:00PM Then Allow the programs in this folder to run. -------------- The time for 10:32 was for testing. It will be 10:00AM when I get this to work. Then I added a program in the folder called "Turn Off Lights" with: If From Sunrise To Sunset (same day) Then Set Scene 'Back Light' Off Set Scene 'Front Porch' Off Set Scene 'Living Room Light' On Send Notification to All Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ---------- Setting scene 'Living Room Light' On and send notification are just for testing. At first I did not have anything in the If section, but Program Summary showed a status of False for the program so I thought that was why it did not run. So I added the sunrise to sunset condition. It did not run at the desired time. The Run Next time for the folder showed the 10:32 time and then after 10:32 updated to 11:00. If I go to Program Summary and select the program and then select Run (If), it runs and does what I expected it to do. So what am I missing in my logic or selecting the proper options? This is on a ISY99i with 2.7.6.

I am new to the ISY99i so I may have just over looked what I am about to ask. What is the best way to run a program or maybe even a group of programs once each hour no matter what? The hours are only during the day. I know about sunup and sunset, which I may use. I thought about creating directories like H0800 through H1700 and putting conditions on them to only be true for that hour. Then in the directory I would put the programs I want to run. The only thing is I would have to duplicate a lot of programs and if I decided something needed to be changed, I would have to make the changes in all the program. Or another though on this concept would to just have one program that called some common programs in another directory. The reason I want to do something hourly is to turn off certain lights during the day if they get left on. Things like turning on the front porch light because it is dark early in the morning and forgetting to turn it off as I leave. Sometime the outside back light gets turn on by mistake because it is next to the garage light.

Rand: Thanks for the quick reply. I will have to try it when I get home. So exactly what is Grouping Devices used for?

I have a 6 button KeypadLinc dimmer. I wanted to group 3 of the buttons to be mutually exclusive. It seem you can only select all, at least A - D. Then KeypadLinc is named (Living Room Light) and the buttons are (Living Room Key A) through D. These are all listed as individual items under My Lighting. If I select any one of the Key names and right click, and then select Group devices, it groups all 4 of them and makes them sub trees under Living Room Light. I can ungroup them and they become individual items under My Lighting again. If they are grouped or not, if I select one of them and then select Mutual Exclusive Button at the bottom of the screen I get a list that contains Living Room Light and the Living Room Key A through D, plus 2 scene item I do not have defined (Mutually Exclusive Buttons 1 and 2). The options to select then are OK, Cancel and Reset. I can not figure out what selecting Reset does or what else can be done with the list. Also if the buttons are grouped and show as sub trees, I can right click on one of them and it has the option to Group Devices. I tried it and it appears to not really do anything. I would think Group Device should not be listed or if it is and you select it, it should give and warning error.