kldload: can't load uftdi.ko: No such file or directory

 

Looks like the USB FTDI kernel module/driver is gone.

1 hour ago, asbril said:

As I have not given much attention to Zigbee, I am not sure to understand the logic. Other may have a better understanding.

Mass market with Zigbee and upcoming Matter is targeting the low end DIY hub systems and especially the Amazon Echo and Google/Nest trying to evolve into "hubs".  Amazon tried with the Echo Plus several years ago and is now expanding the zigbee functionality into their other Echo devices as the mass consumer market are adopting things. 

It's also cheaper to manufacture a Zigbee device and have it certified through the Zigbee Alliance as each vendor doesn't have to pay for the full certification cost.  They can piggy-back the certification by using the "pattern" of an existing device such as a light switch/dimmer and using the "verified" chipset and ZCL (Zigbee Command Library).  This significantly reduces cost of development and manufacturing of devices.

Zigbee is actually a great protocol to use for lighting which is why the majority of "bulbs" use it.  The commands can be grouped and sent to give the synchronous lighting like Insteon does with multicast messaging.  Z-Wave just can't do this as it's not a protocol level functionality (yet).

Continuing to produce devices for Z-Wave is to keep security panel vendors and for semi-professional and professional systems that support Z-Wave (most of them).  I don't think there will be any "new" innovation from Inovelli in regards to Z-Wave devices though or at least not for a while until they fill the coffers with funds from the mass market (consumer) sales.

On 6/7/2021 at 1:33 AM, kzboray said:

@simplextech

Thanks for getting back to me! I've checked the stores at ployglot.isy.io and my.isy.io and I don't see the Withings NS. Can you point me in the right direction.

 

Thank you again!

 

I don't think I ever published it.  It was a work in progress that I'll have to revisit.

12 minutes ago, kzboray said:

Thank you @Bumbershoot. I reached out to @simplextech on this his Withings thread.

You did?  Sorry I didn't see anything.  Yes I have developed a Withings NS.  It's been a while since I worked on it but it is functional even in Beta quality. 

I may have some ideas.

The best option would be to develop a Control4 driver to interface directly with the ISY.  I've always been interested in developing Control4 drivers.  I don't install Control4 currently but I've been interested in it.

Alternatively there is a Control4 driver for integrating external systems via TCP and HTTP commands.  There's another driver that can be used for sending HTTP and TCP commands.  Perhaps there's a driver that combines both.  I believe drivercentral has them available to your installer.  Using those drivers a crude setup could be done using the ISY network resources.  With some effort it would also be possible to develop a Polisy NodeServer for a tighter bi-directional interface between the ISY and Control4.

6 hours ago, jwagner010 said:

I am looking for a z-wave vibration sensor, one which is battery powered and 'relatively' small.

Depending on how much vibration or rather how little vibration you're trying to detect you may look at "Break Sensors".  There are Z-Wave versions of these as they are designed for security for glass breaking.  Such as detection of someone breaking a window.  Which is why I asked depending on how much or little vibration detection will determine if these would meet the requirements.

50 minutes ago, Teken said:

Just sh^t communications from start to finish!

Isn't that normal for SmartHome?

 

1 hour ago, Teken said:

I’m not sure if the person is actually talking about older / existing KPL’s that incorporate this software feature. But, for the benefit of others this (Detached Load) was actually a Beta Hardware that for whatever reason Smartlabs did not go into production with.

When I had Insteon KPL's I tested this "feature" with HomeSeer.  It does exist and it does work.  It's also documented in the Insteon developer documentation.  Not many ever implemented the feature.

First thing that stands out is you have a broken mesh.  You don't have any powered devices that act as repeaters.  This would explain the hit/miss of query information and intermittent issues.

4 minutes ago, asbril said:

my personal experience with the limited longevity of PLM's.

This I understand.  That piece of information gets left out.  It's not the reliance on a PLM it's the poor history of longevity of the PLM.

8 minutes ago, asbril said:

The use of a PLM keeps me away from Insteon

This rational never made sense to me.  No matter the protocol a "controller" is required.  Whether it's a PLM or Z-Wave board, USB stick or external bridge some controller to interface with the protocol is required.

16 minutes ago, friscouser said:

Any other smart locks to consider which are Z wave plus and compatible with alarm.com ?

Go ask alarm.com or their support site.

1 minute ago, telljcl said:

Could just put some 24v coil relays in to control floor zones I guess?

There are options.  However floor t-stats usually also have a temp probe to ensure you don't melt/burn the floor.  So keep that in mind of adding a temp probe if going with relays.

 

1 hour ago, telljcl said:

has done with the NUheat or clone thermostats or other (hopefully local) systems that will play nicely with ISY and / or Polisy?

The NuHeat nodeserver for Polisy is published.  It does use their cloud API however the NS itself runs local.  There is a PGC version available as well which is using a different API version.  As some point they are supposed to converge and I'll likely combine them.

For floor heat thermostat's the Nuheat and Sinope are the only one's I'm aware of that have integrations.  Sinope is not integrated with the ISY because it is a Zigbee thermostat and I've not (yet) started on adding Zigbee functionality directly to Polisy.  Sinope does also offer a "bridge" interface which I looked into but they only work direct with vendors not 3rd parties so they won't give me the API.

I don't know if Venstar offers a floor heat thermostat or if one of their models would work or not.  You might contact them and ask.

6 minutes ago, asbril said:

create a program that makes Google Home or Alexa make a phonecall.

Amazon hasn't released any API or method of directly interacting with Alexa.  There are some hacks but only for devices so nothing I'm aware of for triggering a phone call.  Google has a more open API and developer program however I'm not aware of anything that can trigger a phone call.  Interesting though.  Now if you had a SIP system say Asterisk or something that's more probable.

10 minutes ago, asbril said:

program the buttons to make call through either Google Home or Alexa.

I'm not sure I'm understanding what you mean by this.

The Nanomote is a Z-Wave button device.  As long as the device is supported on the ISY you can use the buttons to trigger programs to do something.

3 minutes ago, larryllix said:

hmmmmm. maybe it was Rev2.6. I will have to check in the morning.

Tell me when 3.0 comes out

 

1 minute ago, larryllix said:

I don't understand your point. Insteon created a modified design and produced it after months since the last rev was released. From what I can tell a new PLM unit was all chat room fantasy and never from the mouths of Insteon.

I have been using Insteon RF for 7 years now.

Well that makes two of us as I was replying about "new" and you posted about a PLM v2.5 which is not "new".

Either way doesn't matter.  Glad there's new stuff coming out someday.

1 minute ago, larryllix said:

Yeah, after waiting for a month and a half I received a PLM V2.5 from aartech.ca. They haven't discontinued progress or the line.

I'm not questioning them continuing business as usual.  They will get more stock that's just a supply issue.  I know there's "new" stuff talked about and some "new" stuff coming but so far there's nothing real about a "new" PLM with improvements.  Wouldn't it be amazing if they made the RF part of dual band actually USEFUL?

 

21 minutes ago, larryllix said:

Since Insteon just released a new PLM design

Anything out there besides hidden filings?  Any PR or announcements or physical product yet?

Z-Wave device range is typically fairly small inside a building/home due to many factors.  Z-Wave overcomes this by using a mesh network design where the messages can be repeated by their neighboring nodes until the message gets to the correct destination.  For a Z-Wave network to work properly and efficiently it takes multiple nodes to form the mesh.  Most if not all Z-Wave Plus Powered devices (plugin modules or hard wired) are all repeaters and help form the mesh.  Battery operated devices do not repeat messages and do not help with building a mesh.

Insteon uses it's own distributed network topology where every powered node will rebroadcast messages and the destination will then respond.  Insteon also uses the powerline as a network connection as well as RF for dual band devices.  In a clean power environment Insteon is absolutely great.  

5 minutes ago, seattlestexan said:

Apparently I have to be some corporate user to DL an older Java. RPMs or Tarballs, clicking download sends me to an Oracle login or create account screen, which then wants as much info as they can get.

Here.  I just tried this one and you can download the JRE with no logins or problems.

https://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

 

4 minutes ago, seattlestexan said:

Wow... I just remembered I've not hear the name RedHat in years. lol

I work with RedHat a lot at work but Fedora is more common at home

4 minutes ago, seattlestexan said:

Is there a safe place to download 1.8 that doesn't require me to set up an account I'm never going to use again?

https://www.oracle.com/java/technologies/javase-jre8-downloads.html

I always use the tarball and then adjust my PATH as I want/need.  There's deb and rpm's if you prefer those.

5 minutes ago, seattlestexan said:

I think it's all Ubuntu at this point. ?

Which is debian

If you had problems with the Oracle JRE you probably used too new of a version as Oracle removed Java Webstart (javaws) from the bundle.  Stick with 1.8 and it works well on all of the distros I've used recently (Arch, Manjaro, Ubuntu, Ubuntu variants)

8 minutes ago, seattlestexan said:

I: Can you clarify the support statement? ISY doesn't support v 5.0.16? That's what my ISY shipped with. The only secure zwave I can disable is ZWave>ZWSecureDevices>Don't allow secure devices. I've tried that, and was hit with another error about "not securely added" the Inovelli goes red indicating inclusion failed, and it never shows up in the devices on admin console.

I wasn't very clear.  The 5.0.16 FW does not support the new S2 security that everybody is touting.  Most controllers don't support it and those that claim they do well don't support it very well.  However I'm gonna have to recruit @Eric_Inovelliso answer why the switch won't include without security.