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Did you make a scene out of all of the players?

There is still life in the old Insteon / ISY bird yet. Perhaps not for new builds but there is certainly enough stock flying around both new (Insteon store backup selling a limited range of kit) and used. I am happy hanging off the cliff edge with my fingernails and have accrued enough kit for most eventualities now....so I should be good for quite a few years with the two properties I have the kit installed. By then I'll be too old and burned out to do any anything anyway.

Update 2: I have 'resolved' the issue by completely deleting and re-adding manually each NR. I can now add new functional NRs. I can only assume there was some corruption somewhere that carried over a backup/restore. Not sure but onwards and upwards...

Update: Tried DHCP, same issue. Router is DECO X60, no DNSMasq.

Hi folks, Fimware / UI 5.3.0 It's been a while since I added a NR. I have a total of 56 of them working fine the last one added maybe six months or so ago. When trying to create a new HTTPS POST NR, I either copy an existing NR or create a new one from scratch, I get a TCP client DNS error with a strange error code: [sfvad vadv] All previously added NR's continue to work flawlessly. I cannot see any issue with the ISY DNS, I've configured both the router IP and Google DNS, same issue. I don't understand why if I copy a working NR, save, then test it fails. Could anyone shed some light? I've restored config to a test ISY unit, same problem. No apparent issues with the SD card. edit: added info

I would start with the basics: Power cycle everything, PC, ISY, router etc. Make sure cabling is good.

It looks like an IP issue to me? If you know the ISY IP address try pinging it.

Thanks Javi, I shall have to fiddle around. The programming I am presently using was gleaned from here I think some time ago from another member.

Hi Javi, Thank you for explaining. Is there a change log that documents changes such as these? Would there be a way in the next release to revert back to also having the user number in the main node? That way it would be an easy path to refresh the programming, as I tested using the child node Access control, but as we can see in the log, the sequence is now different, and my existing programming does not function if I substitute the child node for the main node. This is what I presently have with 4.3.0, which has been working fine for a long time. =================================================================================== Control - [ID 003F][Parent 0042] Folder Conditions for 'Control' If - No Conditions - (To add one, press 'Schedule' or 'Condition') Then Allow the programs in this folder to run. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] Battery Level - [ID 0004][Parent 003F] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' Battery Level <= 50% Then Resource '[FrontDoor] Battery Low' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] Jammed - [ID 0005][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' Status is Jammed Then Resource '[FrontDoor] Jammed' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] State Unknown - [ID 0006][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' Status is Unknown Then Resource '[FrontDoor] State Unknown' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] Trigger Locked - [ID 0007][Parent 003F] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' Status is Locked Then Run Program '[FrontDoor] U0 Locked' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] Trigger Unlocked - [ID 0008][Parent 003F] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' Status is Unlocked Then Run Program '[FrontDoor] U0 Unlocked' (If) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U0 Locked - [ID 0009][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 0 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U0 Locked' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] U1 Locked Rob' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U0 Unlocked - [ID 000A][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 0 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U0 Unlocked' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] U1 Unlocked Rob' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U1 Locked Rob - [ID 000B][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 1 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U1 Locked Rob' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] U2 Locked Matt' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U1 Unlocked Rob - [ID 000C][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 1 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U1 Unlocked Rob' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] U2 Unlocked Matt' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U10 Locked Guest - [ID 000D][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 10 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U10 Locked Guest' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] U11 Locked Guest Spare' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U10 Unlocked Guest - [ID 000E][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 10 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U10 Unlocked Guest' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] U11 Unlocked Guest Spare' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U11 Locked Guest Spare - [ID 000F][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 11 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U11 Locked Guest Spare' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] State Unknown' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U11 Unlocked Guest Spare - [ID 0010][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 11 Then Resource '[BackDoor] U11 Unlocked Guest Spare' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] State Unknown' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U2 Locked Matt - [ID 0011][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 2 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U2 Locked Matt' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] U3 Locked Christy' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U2 Unlocked Matt - [ID 0012][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 2 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U2 Unlocked Matt' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] U3 Unlocked Christy' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U3 Locked Christy - [ID 0013][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 3 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U3 Locked Christy' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] U4 Locked Hein' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U3 Unlocked Christy - [ID 0014][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 3 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U3 Unlocked Christy' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] U4 Unlocked Hein' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U4 Locked Hein - [ID 0015][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 4 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U4 Locked Hein' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] U5 Locked Margaret' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U4 Unlocked Hein - [ID 0017][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 4 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U4 Unlocked Hein' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] U5 Unlocked Margaret' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U5 Locked Margaret - [ID 0018][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 5 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U5 Locked Housekeeper' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] U6 Locked Dan' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U5 Unlocked Margaret - [ID 001E][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 5 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U5 Unlocked Housekeeper' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] U6 Unlocked Dan' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U6 Locked Dan - [ID 001F][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 6 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U6 Locked Dan' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] U10 Locked Guest' (If) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [FrontDoor] U6 Unlocked Dan - [ID 0021][Parent 003F][Not Enabled] If 'Entry / Front Door / Front Door' User Number is 6 Then Resource '[FrontDoor] U6 Unlocked Dan' Else Run Program '[FrontDoor] U10 Unlocked Guest' (If)

I was weary to revert firmware remotely and have been able to attend site, revert to firmware 5.3.0 and sure enough everything works as before - user number is assigned to door lock node and my programs work correctly. Interestingly there is now no information presented through Access Control Alarm node, it is blank with 5.3.0. So, is this a bug with 5.3.4? Perhaps has the way the ISY communicates with zwave / Schlage locks has been adjusted / upgraded between 5.3.0 and 5.3.4? Not sure. If anyone knows I am keen to learn.

The factory batteries were awful - straight into some led flash lights they went.

FWIW Energizer Lithium have worked properly for me in Insteon Leak Sensors. Last a looooooong time.

Here is a snippet from the log relating to the door being unlocked by user 5: Entry / Front Door / Front Door Status Unlocked Mon 2022/05/16 12:53:02 PM System Log Entry / Front Door / Front Door Access Control An alarm occurred (values are different for each device type) 6 Mon 2022/05/16 12:53:02 PM System Log Entry / Front Door / Front Door Access Control The user access code that associated with the most recent Alarm 5 Mon 2022/05/16 12:53:02 PM System Log Here is an older log entry when user number used to work: Entry / Front Door / Front Door The user access code that associated with the most recent Alarm 10 Fri 2021/10/01 05:59:45 PM System Log Entry / Front Door / Front Door Status Unlocked Fri 2021/10/01 05:59:45 PM System Log It appears the way the ISY is organizing the zwave lock data is now different since the firmware upgrade(?)

Remote address so difficult to do much in a physical way until I am on-site. I recently updated ISY to 5.3.4 and since then (I think) both my Schlage BE469ZP dead bolts no longer report the user number on the main node in the user number field (see pic). It remains blank. I have programs that utilize this information that no longer function. The user number DOES still appear in the Access Control Device node (see pic) I don't appear to have any zwave comms issues, nothing has changed on the ISY aside from the firmware update. The issue happens using both Schlage locks I have on-site, so we can rule out an individual lock. I have not attempted any form of synchronize / update neighbors / repair links as I don't think it has anything to do with the problem, but please do correct me if I am mistaken.

May I recommend X10 and a Firecracker controller.

This intrigues me, yet probably very possible with the ISY.

Forgive me for intruding but there is a HUGE price discrepancy between 700ZW products and Lutron (RA, Caseta, Homeworks etc.) not to mention the capabilities of 700ZW go way beyond those of Lutron. Both have their place.

Interesting you mention query. I have been trying with status or command the KPL, both of which failed. Thanks I will try to query the Fanlinc.

Yes everything works correctly if you delay turning off from on (normal use) by a second or two. By design it functions. Should off be pressed too quickly the issue occurs. It is this issue I am trying to repair using ISY logic, to make it more foolproof.

Turning on to any power level then off once more straight away, results in the KPL off light coming on but the fan on speed remains live even though the speed button light is no longer lit. You are required to function through on then off once more but in a slower manner. Once the KPL shows off, is there a way for the ISY to backup this information?

Hi all, I've setup a Fanlinc+KPL for use in a guest environment as per the WiKi for v5 firmware. Everything works well, although, if buttons are pressed quickly from any speed back to off, the off is not actioned upon, even though ISY senses the button press, the scene (presumably in the KPL) did not. I've attempted using a program to override without success. Ideally I would like to continue to use scene programming for response speed rather than ISY direct control.

I recently gleaned a used 2413U, so I think now I am comfortable with replacement PLM's. but over $200US for a used 2413S? Wow.

It's gone crackers I tell you...

I have two sites with two live ISY's (two spare ISY's, one 'installed' and I power up every so often and restore latest config to. Two spare working 2413S's and 1 spare working 2412S and two dead 2412S's (keeping for possible cap fix or further investigation). Always on the lookout for more spares....?