Guy Lavoie

Is your zwave setup currently just the eisy and that one switch you're trying to configure?

It's like the supermarket. Just when you pretty well have the layout of the whole store figured out and know where to get things, they rearrange the store.

Some aspects of the admin console aren't always intuitive.

What do you mean by "outdoor remotes"? Insteon battery powered mini-remotes? Those usually need to be restored, by relinking.

Well try clicking on them to send your changes after choosing your values. That's how I do it, as indicated in my first post.

What setting(s) are you trying to change? For example if you change the heat setpoint, do you then click on the "Heat Setpoint" button left of the edit field? The fact that those are buttons (and not just labels) isn't always obvious. "Write changes" is usually for parameter or configuration (option) changes, not regular things like setpoints.

I found that Alexa announcements are slow in general (even single ones), up to a minute in some cases.

The eisy isn't considered a "hub" in that sense. You can't just walk into a chain store and buy an eisy as a shrink wrapped product. Chances are that the product will work just fine, since zwave devices are designed around a common chipset.

What device models are they? My garage thermostat example is an insteon 2441TH, and the dimmer is a 2477D insteon switch.

For your first question, did you do a "synchronize" in UD Mobile after adding the new device(s)? From the main screen, click on the three vertical dots at the upper right corner, and click on synchronize.

I just verified on mine (eisy running 5.8.4), and I have access to the other thermostat, and dimming settings.

Yes I've done a downgrade from 5.3.4 to 5.0.16c, and it worked.

Having a spare PLM on hand is always a good idea.

The easiest (and cheapest) way to couple powerline phases for Insteon is probably by installing a dual band lamplinc module on each phase of your breaker panel, and in somewhat close proximity to each other (ideally in the same room). They're plug in modules, so easy to move around. However if you have lots of other dual band devices, such as wall switches, then this will often be sufficient too. A setup with just a few devices is less reliable than one with many, as is the case with other mesh network topologies. Yes, the 2477S is dual band (has both powerline and rf communications). The dual band technology is a big part of Insteon's reliability. If the only Insteon device(s) you have are wall switches, then trying things like moving it closer to the PLM will be difficult. Tell us what you have exactly, and how they're laid out. I have a mid size setup (about 35 to 40 Insteon devices) and is a mix of dual band and powerline only devices (I bought several lots of used devices). I'd say about 2/3rds of them are dual band. I consciously set them up to have dual band switches in at least every part of the house. Some devices are also rf only, such as the battery powered Triggerlinc magentic door detectors, mini remotes, and the thermostats.

The 1181 is definitely not Insteon. It is one of Smarthome's very first X10 compatible switches. Then came the 2384, etc. Then came Insteon. On the 2477S, you should see a label with an address formatted such as 47.F2.E0 That's the device address, and what you should try entering when adding a Insteon device manually (though "Start Linking" should also work). But just start with that. The fact that the admin console says the PLM is connected is already a good start.

Have you tried manually entering the device address? Under "Link Management", click on "New INSTEON/A10/X10 Device" and enter the device address. Try this first with a 2477S or other dual band device. Also, where is your PLM plugged in? Have your existing Insteon devices worked there before?

Update what? IoX? Current version is 5.8.4

Thanks for that. I'll read it over a couple of times to make sure I grasp everything discussed. Interesting that 13 years ago apostolaskisi asked the same question, did similar tests, and is still around!

Is that discussion still on here, somewhere? I'd like to view it if possible.

I've had the odd Alexa device mix up, where it activates the wrong device. I'd delete it from the Alexa app and rediscover it. But that was with Hue lights being controlled through HA bridge. Insert "Alexa is blonde" joke here... but stuff happens. You geographic restriction thing is really odd. It could be (hopefully) something temporary.

It's possible that the actual occurrence of some output events might appear to happen out of order. For example you might have programmed a zwave command followed by an Insteon command, and the zwave propagation delay might make that device appear to respond after the Insteon device. But that would be due to output queueing and communication speed. The program would still have initiated the commands in programmed order.

There you go. That's why I'm always weary of updates.

Have another computer you could try it from?

I did see a "java update available" go by just a couple of days ago, but I always wait a bit, just in case. The version I have now is 431 build 1.8.0_431-b09 I'm also running Windows 10 64 bit.