gadgetfreak

Thank you for the quick reply. But I have a follow up question: So my scene (called "Bathroom Lights") would be to include the 3 bathroom light switches at 50% (let's call them light1, light2, and light3). What is the 'Your Trigger Device.1' you mentioned in the Persistent 50 program? Thanks.

I would like to set up a programs to activate a scene (such as all bathrooms lights on to 50% at night) and keep them on throughout the entire night. But I would like those lights to remain on even if someone accidentally turns any one of them off (via a light switch). So, if someone presses the paddle off on the switch, the light will immediately turn back on to it's 50% state. Does anyone have any good suggestions on how to accomplish this? Thanks in advance.

Thanks for the reply. So in my case, I would set the program to turn ON the scene which would set light 1 to 100%, light 2 to 50% and light 3 to 0% (which is the same as off)? And I would set the scene to off if I want all 3 lights to go off? Thanks again.

I created a scene with three switches: One goes on 100%, one goes to 50% and one to go off. So all three lights are activated in the same scene. When I add that scene to a program, should the scene be set to on or off? And, if you tell me "on" (to actually "run" the scene), what would "off" do? Thanks.

I no longer use any x-10 devices (though there are some residual unused switches still installed. I will remove them and try restoring the KPL. Thx.

Doubtful because even the upper-left load works fine (responding and controlling) and is not part of any other links but it still flashes. I "could" reset the whole thing and reprogram but I was trying to avoid that.

I just wanted to update everyone on this. I removed the boosterlinc from my bedroom and added in a lamplinc dual band (an extra one I had which I will eventually need for a lamp anyway) and almost ALL of my problems disappeared. So, for future troubleshooting, everyone should keep this in mind. However, one of my KPLs in my bedroom still flashed 5 times fast after every button push. Even though it seems to work perfectly responding and sending commands, the flashing still happens. Does anyone have an idea? Thx.

As I stated above, all of my computers, TV equipment (including UPS devices) are behind filters. The PLM is installed in the front (non filtered) outlet of the filter which is filtering the UPS for all my AV gear in the den. But thanks anyway for the suggestion. I appreciate you taking the time to try to help. I have removed the boosterlinc in my bedroom (well my wife did while I was at work). I restored the modem (PLM) and things look better. I need to run some scene tests. Should a scene test always turn off the devices attached and also succeed EVERY time?

So do I need to remove the hardwired coupler at the panel? Is the 2-pack plug in sufficient? Should I install something different at the panel?

Ouch. It sounds like a complicated procedure but I will do the best I can to follow those procedures. I believe I only have one boosterlinc 4827. Interestingly, it is plugged into my bedroom from the old days of x10. I will unplug it and see if it helps. You have any hope that it might? The only other remnants from the x10 days are some 4-paddle switches and a phase coupler at the panel. Do you think that phase coupler (8 years old+) works for Insteon? Do I even need one with the plug in couplers? If so, which one? Also, you mentioned to make sure that it is actually coupled. I followed the instructions on the 2443P (2-pack) and it gave a confirmation of successful phase coupling. Did I miss something? Thanks again for everything.

I think you are right that there is some interference or communication issues. But I thought I would be OK with Insteon (especially after coming from x10). I have the two plug-in phase couplers and I thought each of the devices was supposed to be a repeater. With so many devices, I should have been covered. Note that I still have some unused residual x10 devices in my house. Could they be causing a problem? Here are my devices as shown in the My Lighting section of the ISY: 2456S3 v.00 (2) 2456S3 v/38 (1) 2473 v.37 (1) 2476D v.27 (2) 2476S v.37 (1) 2486D v.36 (16 which represents 2 8-button KPLs) 2486DWH8 v.00 (8 which represents 1 8-button KPL) 2486DWH8 v.2D (16 which represents 2 8-button KPLs). These are the ones that are giving me the most problems. 2876D3 v.28 (4) 2876DB v.39 (9) 2876S v.28 (5) 2876SB v.39 (15) B2457D2 v.3A (2) As you can see, I have spent a lot of money converting from x10 to Insteon (including the ISY99). What else can I do to get more reliability? Thanks.

I am in the middle if doing a reset on the PLM now. But I few more points I want to make to help with this process. 1) I mentioned I have 5 KPLs. They are all 8-button. 2) The two in my bedroom seem to be having "issues". Sometimes they all have green flags in the web interface and sometimes, although they respond to commands and the buttons work, after pressing a button, they will flash 5 times. 3) One of the scenes I was having a problem with has been resolved once I deleted and recreated the scene. This was just 5 wall switches. 4) The other scene which was 3 appliancelincs and one outletlinc still will not work when the bedroom KPLs are part of the scene. However, when I remove the KPLs from the scene, the scene works fine. 5) I actually have 5-6 filterlincs on all my computer and TV equipment already. So I am thinking that the two bedroom KPLs are the problem. But how do I fix it? Also, on a related note, do you recommend including individual KPL buttons as part of a scene or rather initiating a program that controls a scene? Thanks again for all the help.

OK, I will test everything you suggested later today. If this helps, I have a total of 5 KPLs, 3 appliancelincs, 2 dual band lamplics, and a bunch of switchs (most icons but some better) - around 20-25 that control loads and another approx 5 that are used as slaves. If it is noise, how is that rectified?

OK. This is interesting. To answer your questions: 1) I do NOT have the problem when pressing the KPL button in the scene. That works fine. 2) On the two scenes I mentioned before, they both failed every device. I had another scene I tried where only 3 of 15 succeeded. 3) 11. 4) No. What else can I check/do? Thanks for the help.

I have two scenes. The first has 3 appliance lincs, one outletlinc all as responders and a button on each of two KPLs as controllers. The second is just made up of 5 icon switches. I start by querying the devices in the scene to get current status, Let's say they all say on. I then choose the scene and select Fast Off. The status' of all devices change to off, but nothing happens to any of the lights. The above is happening to both scenes so I guess it doesn't matter whether there are KPL buttons as controllers or not. Obviously, this is very important to me because I have programs that need to activate the scenes. I am not sure if they will work if I can't manually adjust the scene in ISY. What am I doing wrong? Thanks.

Maybe if we can program the switches to let off a slight electric shock when pressed, we can train the kids (as we do dogs) not to touch them

Thanks for the tips. Since there is no real way to disable a load switch during a specific time period, I am back to my original thought which is to use the repeat command in the program. Do you think there is a negative consequence of repeating every minute for 6 hours?

Ah. So you a second program. That is a good idea. This could get complicated though. I have an upstairs hallway light controlled by 4 separate switches and 2 bathroom lights switches. The first program says that at 8 PM all those lights should be and dimmed to 50% until sunrise. I want to make sure that if one of my kids touches any of those 6 lights between 8PM and sunrise the next day, the scene will reset itself. Your idea will probably work in this situation as we are only dealing with 6 switches. But, if I said that I had a scene which controlled 50 switches and wanted to make sure the scene was always active during a specific time period (regardless of switches touched), it would get much more complicated. So I am wondering if there is any way to activate a scene for a specific time period and make sure that scene remains active the whole time. The only thing I can see is the repeat function for X hours. I guess I can do it ever minute if needed but I wonder if shooting out that many commands will cause any other problems. Thanks.

I would like to set up a program that turns on a scene and keeps it on for 6 hours. It needs to correct itself if someone accidentally presses a switch to turn off a light. I tried setting a repeat function on the program for every hour which may work but I am wondering if that is the best way. Every hour is OK but instantaneous would be better. For example, my kids will sometimes press switches because they "can". I want a specific set for some time and, even though the switch will turn the light off, I want it to go back on as quickly as possible. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.