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Thank you all. UD support had responded with the same recommendation about disabling and re-enabling the skill, and that did the trick. All the removing and re-doing I was doing was on the UD portal and Admin Console side, so not sure if doing that and then disabling and re-enabling the skill did it, but in any case the final result is that disable/re-enable worked. Thanks again.

I recently upgraded from the ISY994i to the eISY. On the 994i, I ran the voice commands through Mobilinc and that all worked great. With the eISY now I'm using the UD Mobile app and running the voice commands through UD Portal/Mobile. However, my Alexa's cannot find new devices. After setup, it only found 1 device. All devices were setup the same/at the same time, but still only found one. The eISY shows as the preferred ISY in UD Portal. Under Connectivity --> Amazon Echo all of the devices show (along with the spoken names), but still the Alexa cannot find the devices. The UD skill is enabled in the Alexa app, and I've tried "discover devices" through the app and through voice on an Echo, many times. I've deleted all the devices in the UD portal, and added them back in. Still no luck. Anyone have any tips/ideas/solutions they could share? Appreciate any help.

Thank you.

Understood, thanks. What is the correct way to link a KPL button (say my LAUNDRY button) to the actual light switch in the laundry room? As I had it before, I did the manual link between the two by pressing the set button and tying the two together. Now without doing that, am I supposed to create a scene for a 3-way essentially? The video link posted above showed how to do a 3-way between two switches using the scene (they are essentially setup reverse with the On/Off...or is there a different/better/correct way to do that. Essentially asking what is the proper way to program my KPL LAUNDRY button to the light switch in the laundry room.

Ok - figured out the issue causing the NIGHT button to turn on all lights instead of just the two lights. In the settings/control for those lights in the scene, I only had the lights selected OFF on the scene heading screen. Had to click on the NIGHT Button (within the scene, that is set as the controller) and select which lights are to be on and off there also. Now it works. Phew. Now to figure out the LED control. Will try to follow two links I have on that with instruction and hope it works out!

No, I've had the ISY for about 8 years or so. Use it mostly for basic automation/control of the lights + have it setup to an ELK M1 for security. Only used programs in the past. I haven't installed a KPL before, and never really had the need, but with our kids growing up and playing in the basement more (and leaving lights on down there), figured it's better to replace the switch at the top of the basement stairs with a KPL and have more control of them. The "instant on" to create the same effect as the double tap I can do with a program as you stated (I have it setup this way for a "Movie Night" type scene (though it's a program) in the family room where the instant on runs a program to turn on/off certain lights - no KPL there, just a regular rocker switch). The manual linking/double tap has worked fine for us for the last 8 years as-is on the Patio/Spotlight, but does now introducing scenes (which include those lights) affect them in a way that the physical linking gets broken? That is, if I have a manual/physical link between switches and I include that switch in a scene, does the ISY automatically break that manual link I created so you cannot do that anymore? Just trying to understand what's occurring there. I did read the scene WIKI, and honestly, I think I have it setup correctly. I'm just not sure why the NIGHT button on the KPL turns all of the lights on in the house, instead of turning only the twoI want on and turning off the rest. Any thoughts on this?

Is that because it's a KPL, or that is standard practice regardless of the KPL? For example, I have a light switch (PATIO) that is linked to an upstairs light over the backyard (SPOTLIGHT). It's manually/physically linked so the single tap on PATIO turns on the patio lights, but double tap on PATIO turns them both on. Is that bad / should be done via ISY? Secondly, each of the KPL buttons is linked manually, and has worked completely fine, until I tried this scene on the NIGHT button, and that killed all of the links. So with that said, if I link via ISY, my NIGHT LIGHTS scene is still not working properly. If I hit NIGHT...then all of the lights in the house turn on where I believe only 2 of the lights should. Does it look programmed correctly from the screenshots? Thanks again.

I am at a loss here. I believe I'm doing this correctly, but what is happening is baffling me. The 6 button KPL has each of the buttons manually linked (switch to switch). ON/OFF, LAUNDRY, GYM, HALL, NIGHT. ON controls 3 basements lights linked to this button, GYM controls two lights, HALL one light, LAUNDRY one light. All linked to the physical switch by pressing the set button and linking them. All worked fine. NIGHT is not linked to anything because I want this button to control a scene. I create the scene having the NIGHT button as the controller, put in all other lights in the house as responders. Set via the screens attached below to have 2 of the lights on all night (Foyer Hall Light and Kitchen Hall Light)...and the rest off when the NIGHT button is pressed. Instead, pressing NIGHT turns on all the lights in the house, and has broken all the links again. So the KPL buttons dont turn on/off their respective lights anymore. What am I missing here? I would except this to work correctly how I have it, but obviously I'm doing something wrong here. Appreciate any help again!

Understood, thanks.

Also, in your picture above, you have the "ACTION" heading. I don't have that in my admin council. Below is what I see. Which is why I don't know if I'm trying to control the OFF in the scene correctly. Shown here I have just loaded the 2 lights that are to be ON all night. Loading the other lights into the scene now.

Thanks @MrBill I'm working through this again today. Unfortunately yesterday after building the scene and trying to build the programs around it, I ended up somehow clearing all the links between switches I have (only have links between the KPL buttons and the switches they control and 2 switches that are linked together for a double tap). Also cleared something where Alexa (through Mobilinc) no longer recognizes any of the devices (and can't find them when querying for them). Deleted those scenes, manually setup the links between switches again, and now trying my hand at these scenes. However, while working through this, I'm questioning whether a scene is really needed for the type of NIGHT or MOVIE scene, for example. Wouldn't it be easier to use a program? If NIGHT button is pressed ON, then turn on 2 lights and turn off all other lights. Easy program. Amy I missing something there where a scene is more advantageous? Now controlling the LED's is another "problem" I'll like to tackle after I get the NIGHT button program or scene done.

I found in the Wiki how to turn off all the other lights in that scene. Now, it cleared the links that were on those buttons, so they dont work. Only the NIGHT button works. It turns ON all of the lights, instead of just turning on the 2 specified and turning OFF the rest. I must be missing something here. It also now cleared so that Alexa doesn't recognize any lights. Still work to turn on/off via MobiLinc though. Any advice on how to get the LED's to match between the KPL and the local buttons? I've found that on the Wiki too, but it shows some LED programs in the instructions (copy/paste below) but doesn't have instructions on them, so am a bit confused. ISY-99i/ISY-26 INSTEON:Creating a KeypadLinc LED Follow Program - Universal Devices, Inc. Wiki (universal-devices.com) Then Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'KeypadLinc LEDs / Family Evening Scene LED' On Else Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'KeypadLinc LEDs / Family Evening Scene LED' Off

I've got a 6 button KPL that I've setup recently (first KPL for me). All works well with the buttons linked (via manual link, except the OFF button is an ALL OFF for the basement lights so that is a program). One of the buttons (D) is my NIGHT button. That button is setup to turn on the two lights I would like to be on all night (Kitchen Hall Light and Foyer Hall Light) with a scene ("NIGHT LIGHTS"). Essentially turn on 2 lights and turn off all other lights. First time for me using a scene. How do I have that scene turn off all the other lights though? Do I set a program that if NIGHT is pressed on, then to turn off all the lights (list them individually). Or do I turn them off in the scene? Essentially the scene turns on the desired lights right now and ties them to the desired button on the KPL. But how do I have that button turn lights off in that same scene? Or, do you turn lights off only via a program. After this I'm tackling having the LED control (so KPL and location switches match). I've read up on that, definitely have some questions, but wanted to make sure I had the ON/OFF setup correctly before attempting that. Those two lights are also part of a sunset/sunrise program I have with them and other lights outside. So when sunrise comes, I'd like those lights turn off like normal + the KPL button LED turned off. Thank you for any help.

@MrBill - thank you very much. I wont have time to get to this tomorrow, but will work on it over the weekend. Thanks again for the instructions and step by step.

@MrBill Thanks for your input. I understand the first part (turn scene off instead of device). Will look up setting up a scene and doing that. Regarding the second part (NIGHT button), I'm a little confused still. What would you recommend is the trigger for "if NIGHT button is switched off"? That is, it's turn pressed/turn on when going to bed. It'll turn on the backlight when pressed, and stay illuminated Otherwise the next day/night you go to press it again when going to bed, and it's still illuminated.

I'm back, looking to see if someone could help me with a program or the logic behind what I'm looking to do. I'm lost. I've got an Insteon 6-button keybad at the top of my basement stairs. The ON controls the basement ceiling lights. The 4 smaller buttons control other lights in the basement (laundry room, gym, hall, and NIGHT). I'd like to do 2 things. First, I'd like the OFF button to turn off all of the basement lights. I have this done with a program. However, all of the LED's that backlight the small buttons remain lit up even though those lights are off. How do I get the small button back lights to turn off also when the OFF button is pressed and those lights get turned off via the program I have for that? Second, the small button I have labeled as NIGHT needs to still be programmed. Thought process is the same as everyone I think. When you press the NIGHT button, all of the lights in the house that are supposed to turn off are turned off, and the lights that should be on all night get turn on (if they aren't already). I think that's easy enough with a program...but then this button back light will be lit up all of the time (all day and all night), as there's nothing to turn the backlight off at any time. Is this supposed to be done with a scene? I have no experience with scenes as I've never used them before, so not sure what I need to do to get both of these things done on the keypad. I appreciate any help that anyone could provide!

I'm running an ISY-994i and Insteon. We've got a TV in the basement that the kids watch, however, they like to leave it on when they come upstairs. Rather, when my wife comes upstairs she forgets to turn the TV for them as they're too young. To solve this problem, I tried to plug the TV into an Insteon On/Off plug module, and have that "OFF" command connected to a program and a 6-button keypad at the top of the stairs. The program is such that when you press OFF on the keypad, the basement lights turn off AND the on/off module that the TV is plugged into turns off, it waits 5 seconds, and turns power back on to the module. I expected this to turn the TV off and when the module "turns on" again the TV would still be off until you turned it on again with the remote (similar to when the power goes out...cut the power, and the TV goes off, then you need to turn the TV on again with the remote as it wont automatically come on when the power comes back on). However, when the module "turns on" again after 5 seconds...the TV is coming back on again. Thoughts on if I need a different program to make this work? Or just extend the time delay before it turns back on again? I'm thinking maybe there's a capacitor in the TV holding power for a bit and that's why it comes back on? Appreciate any help.

Gotcha, understood. Thanks folks!

What do you mean by this? The main basement lights are connected to the ON/OFF buttons on the 6 button switch, so if you press ON, the main basement lights are on and the ON button is backlit. If you press off (now that my programming is done)...all/any of the basement lights that are on will turn off...so it's an ALL OFF essentially. I guess the question is, how to make the ON button light turn on (backlit) when any of the lights are on?

The logic makes sense. How do you program that so that the 6 button switch ON button lights up (if any of the lights are on). First time with a 6 button so not sure how to make the backlight come on in. Thanks again!

Good question...... ? I'll have to play around with this...thanks!

Thanks for taking the time to post this. Simple mistake on my part. It was set to "status" and not "control". Correcting the fixed it, everything works as expected now. Thanks. I was going to post it now but realized from the above comment that it was a status/control issue. Thanks everyone!

Thanks everyone. I'll post up once I get home tonight.

I thought so as well, and that's why I wrote that little test program to test it. I just tested it again. Only the laundry light is turned on. When you hit the OFF button on the 6 button switch, the little green light flashes, but nothing happens. As if it didn't send a signal to turn off all of the lights. If I hit ON and then OFF...the laundry room light does turn off. The program is exactly as described above. Could someone direct me how to program the double tap as a multi-link for all of the switches in the basement? Maybe that will work programming it that way vs. doing it through the ISY??

Just tested something, and trying to think through the logic. I've got: if six button switch is switched off then turn off Basement Laundry Room Lights If the basement lights are off, and I go down there and turn on the laundry lights, they will stay on. If I come upstairs and hit the OFF button on the 6 button switch, they stay ON (they do not turn off). However, if I press ON and then OFF on the 6 button switch, then the basement lights come on then turn off, and just as well the laundry room lights turn off also (as they should). So I'm trying to figure out how to get that exact scenario to work, with the exception of having to press ON and then OFF on the 6 button switch to turn all OFF. Hope that makes sense!