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Looking to see if anyone has any tips, input, good ideas on how to achieve this idea. We're big Chicago Blackhawks fans, and now with the kids older and "celebrating" goals, I'd like to install a police light (like those behind a hockey goal that turn on when a goal is scored), as well as a play a sound clip (Blackhawks goal horn followed by the goal song). When watching at home, when they score, I'd like to press a button by the couch to activate the light and siren/song. I'm running Instean, so figured I could trigger the light pretty easily by a remote to a light that is plugged in behind the TV to a Insteon wall outlet or plug in. However, I'm not sure how best to get the song to play. I'm not against buying a speaker or hardware to make it work. I do have Sonos in the area so maybe a way to trigger that, but not sure how to even go about it. Appreciate any guidance or ideas anyone can share.

Thank you. Will try to run this as a program. Hopefully I can figure it out. Will toy around with it this weekend and report back.

I wanted to ask the pro's for assistance with the ELK alarm voice integration. In my "old" setup using MobiLinc app and ISY994i, I could set my home alarm by voice (Alexa). (Elk M1) However, with my "new" setup eISY + ISY Portal + UD Mobile app, I haven't been able to figure out how to do it. I can add the device (alarm_N001_area_1) in the ISY portal, and give it a spoken name. However, I'm not sure what "device" to choose (light, switch, outlet, fan, device with open/close syntax, device with set/lower/raise sytax, motion sensor, contact sensor). I've tried "switch", and with disabling and renabling the ISY skill in the Alexa app it finds the device and spoken name, however, when I tell it to turn on or set the home alarm, it doesn't do anything. Can anyone assist with how to properly setup the ELK alarm for voice control? (I do have it in the UD Mobile app, and works fine to set/disable the alarm through the app without issue). *The wiki does briefly touch on the ELK, but nothing that explains how to set the alarm on/off with voice. **Looking to only set the alarm on with voice like before. We still manually disarm the alarm with the app or at the keypad. Appreciate any help that can be provided.

Thank you both for the replies. I will toy around with what @dbwarner5 mentioned, but will also post in the appropriate forum. Thanks again.

On that note...figured I'd ask the pro's for assistance with the ELK alarm voice integration. Using MobiLinc I could set my home alarm by voice (Alexa). However, with the ISY Portal and UD Mobile app, I haven't been able to figure out how to do it. I can add the device (alarm_N001_area_1) in the ISY portal, and give it a spoken name. However, I'm not sure what "device" to choose (light, switch, outlet, fan, device with open/close syntax, device with set/lower/raise sytax, motion sensor, contact sensor). I've tried switch, and with disabling and renabling the ISY skill in the Alexa app it finds the device and spoken name, however, when I tell it to turn on or set the home alarm, it doesn't do anything. Can anyone assist with how to properly setup the ELK alarm for voice control? (I do have it in the UD Mobile app, and works fine to set/disable the alarm through the app without issue). Again appreciate any help. *The wiki does briefly touch on the ELK, but nothing that explains how to set the alarm on/off with voice. **Looking to only set the alarm on with voice like before. We still manually disarm the alarm with the app or at the keypad.

Just that quick it found the device/light. I disabled the ISY Alexa skill, re-enabled, and almost immediately Alexa found that new device/light. I guess for some of us we just need to do that extra step of disabling and re-enabling the skill. Not a big deal as it takes 10 seconds to do...but anyway seems to be needed for me.

Thanks for the replies. I put the spoken name in the admin console out of habit I guess. I used to use the 994i with MobiLinc, and you would add the spoken names there. Now I'm using the eISY with the UD App, so the spoken names are in the ISY portal. I am also adding the spoken name in the ISY portal as it should be. Unfortunately even though everything looks correct, I still cannot get new devices to be found manually. If I wait long enough, they seem to be found on their own That was possibly my old thread from a while ago. While researching this again last night I found that thread myself again (completely forgot about it to be honest). In that thread I followed the direction to unlink and the skill and re-link and it worked. Going to try that again now as I've been unable to get Alexa to find this new device.

Thank you for the reply. "Dog's Room Closet Light" phrase does not exist anywhere, but yet if you very clearly state that, it turns them on/off. I have other lights that are pretty similair, and it never gets those wrong. Believe it or not I have "basement hall lights" and "basement wall lights" and we never have issues with the Alexa choosing the wrong one. Regarding not finding a new device, does anyone know how to poll the system to find it? I added a wall dimmer, and Alexa cannot find that device. Actually Alexa never finds new devices. Only randomly after some time does the system find them. I can poll all I want (by speaking to Alexa to find new devices, or by doing so manually in the Alexa app). Is there something I'm missing in the spoken name on the eISY side? It shows the name under NOTES, and shows the name in ISY PORTAL. Why couldn't Alexa find it or how could I get her to? Thanks again.

I'm having two issues with my Alexa/Echo spoken names / finding of devices.. One of which is pretty much recurring so figured I'd ask to try and find a solution. #1 - The recurring issue: Whenever I add a device (with name in the NOTE on admin console, or name in the SPOKEN field in the online portal), the Echo's never find the new device. I can see them and control them in admin console / UD Mobile app, but Alexa cannot find them. However, it does EVENTUALLY, on it's own, find them. After I add the device, I try to poll for it by voice (Alexa, find new devices). I also try to poll for it through the Amazon Alexa app by click on find new devices. It never finds the devices. Then randomly a few days or weeks later, they are there. Does this happen to anyone else? Is there a solution to be able to add a new device with spoken name, and have the Alexa's pick it up / find it right away? I must be doing something wrong. #2 - I have a closet light in a spare bedroom that we used to use for the dogs. Now for me son. Now that this is the boy's room, I changed the spoken name from "Dog's Room Closet Light" to "John's Room Closet Light". It was changed in the admin consol on desktop, and also shows correct in the online portal. However, both names work to control the light. I can say "Alexa, turn on the dogs room closet light" or I can say "Alexa, turn on John's room closet light". Both spoken terms work. Why/how is that? Shouldn't the old name that was removed not work anymore? Wondering where it is that it is still getting picked up and working. Appreciate any help that can be provided. Running eISY + UD Mobile + Insteon Devices

Thank you all very much for the responses, much appreciated. Also thanks for the logic explanation. I've got decent programs in place (6 button keypads that get pretty creative), but mostly I've copied from others on this board. So maybe just a brain **** that I couldn't figure out this basic thing, but appreciate the explanation of logic behind it and the extra effort of posting a sample code.

I've got the most basic program, and it does not work. I cannot for the life of me figure out why this doesn't work, so I must be missing something obvious. Could anyone tell me what basic thing I'm doing wrong here? If basement lights is ON, and the time hits 9:00pm, then turn the basement lights off. Seems pretty easy. I've tried with "status" ON and with "control" 100%. If I run the "then" statement, it turns the light off. However, running by itself, it isn't working. Appreciate any help anyone could give.

Thank you all. UD support had responded with the same recommendation about disabling and re-enabling the skill, and that did the trick. All the removing and re-doing I was doing was on the UD portal and Admin Console side, so not sure if doing that and then disabling and re-enabling the skill did it, but in any case the final result is that disable/re-enable worked. Thanks again.

I recently upgraded from the ISY994i to the eISY. On the 994i, I ran the voice commands through Mobilinc and that all worked great. With the eISY now I'm using the UD Mobile app and running the voice commands through UD Portal/Mobile. However, my Alexa's cannot find new devices. After setup, it only found 1 device. All devices were setup the same/at the same time, but still only found one. The eISY shows as the preferred ISY in UD Portal. Under Connectivity --> Amazon Echo all of the devices show (along with the spoken names), but still the Alexa cannot find the devices. The UD skill is enabled in the Alexa app, and I've tried "discover devices" through the app and through voice on an Echo, many times. I've deleted all the devices in the UD portal, and added them back in. Still no luck. Anyone have any tips/ideas/solutions they could share? Appreciate any help.

I've got 4 light switches (that control 4 different lights) in my basement. I have it linked so that the main light switch controls the other 4 (main switch ON turns all 4 on). If I turn one of them off, then they all turn off. If I long hold off on one of them, then just that one turns off (and the other 3 stay on). This is how I want it. UD Mobile updates instantly with the statuses. Doesn't matter how or where I turn these lights on/off, the app always updates the status right away. I'm trying to do the same with a new setup (light switch and an on/off module). My problem is that UD Mobile doesn't update with the status of the on/off module if I turn the on/off module OFF before I turn the light switch OFF. I have the light switch linked to the on/off module. If I turn the light switch ON, then the light + the on/off module turn on. If I turn the light switch OFF, then the light and on/off module turn off. If I turn the light switch ON (both light and on/off are ON), and then turn the on/off module OFF via the app, the app will update. Now if I then turn the light switch OFF, and turn in back ON, although the light and on/off module also turn ON as they're supposed to, the UD Mobile app is not updating to show that status of the on/off module (that it is now on). It still thinks the on/off module is OFF since I turned it OFF with the app. It's like it won't update the status until I turn it back ON in the app (even though toggling the light switch has already turned that on/off module back ON). Hope that makes sense. Appreciate any help. Somehow I figured this out with the 4 lights in my basement before, but now cannot figure this out with a new light switch and on/off module setup I'm trying to do.

Thank you.

Understood, thanks. What is the correct way to link a KPL button (say my LAUNDRY button) to the actual light switch in the laundry room? As I had it before, I did the manual link between the two by pressing the set button and tying the two together. Now without doing that, am I supposed to create a scene for a 3-way essentially? The video link posted above showed how to do a 3-way between two switches using the scene (they are essentially setup reverse with the On/Off...or is there a different/better/correct way to do that. Essentially asking what is the proper way to program my KPL LAUNDRY button to the light switch in the laundry room.

Ok - figured out the issue causing the NIGHT button to turn on all lights instead of just the two lights. In the settings/control for those lights in the scene, I only had the lights selected OFF on the scene heading screen. Had to click on the NIGHT Button (within the scene, that is set as the controller) and select which lights are to be on and off there also. Now it works. Phew. Now to figure out the LED control. Will try to follow two links I have on that with instruction and hope it works out!

No, I've had the ISY for about 8 years or so. Use it mostly for basic automation/control of the lights + have it setup to an ELK M1 for security. Only used programs in the past. I haven't installed a KPL before, and never really had the need, but with our kids growing up and playing in the basement more (and leaving lights on down there), figured it's better to replace the switch at the top of the basement stairs with a KPL and have more control of them. The "instant on" to create the same effect as the double tap I can do with a program as you stated (I have it setup this way for a "Movie Night" type scene (though it's a program) in the family room where the instant on runs a program to turn on/off certain lights - no KPL there, just a regular rocker switch). The manual linking/double tap has worked fine for us for the last 8 years as-is on the Patio/Spotlight, but does now introducing scenes (which include those lights) affect them in a way that the physical linking gets broken? That is, if I have a manual/physical link between switches and I include that switch in a scene, does the ISY automatically break that manual link I created so you cannot do that anymore? Just trying to understand what's occurring there. I did read the scene WIKI, and honestly, I think I have it setup correctly. I'm just not sure why the NIGHT button on the KPL turns all of the lights on in the house, instead of turning only the twoI want on and turning off the rest. Any thoughts on this?

Is that because it's a KPL, or that is standard practice regardless of the KPL? For example, I have a light switch (PATIO) that is linked to an upstairs light over the backyard (SPOTLIGHT). It's manually/physically linked so the single tap on PATIO turns on the patio lights, but double tap on PATIO turns them both on. Is that bad / should be done via ISY? Secondly, each of the KPL buttons is linked manually, and has worked completely fine, until I tried this scene on the NIGHT button, and that killed all of the links. So with that said, if I link via ISY, my NIGHT LIGHTS scene is still not working properly. If I hit NIGHT...then all of the lights in the house turn on where I believe only 2 of the lights should. Does it look programmed correctly from the screenshots? Thanks again.

I am at a loss here. I believe I'm doing this correctly, but what is happening is baffling me. The 6 button KPL has each of the buttons manually linked (switch to switch). ON/OFF, LAUNDRY, GYM, HALL, NIGHT. ON controls 3 basements lights linked to this button, GYM controls two lights, HALL one light, LAUNDRY one light. All linked to the physical switch by pressing the set button and linking them. All worked fine. NIGHT is not linked to anything because I want this button to control a scene. I create the scene having the NIGHT button as the controller, put in all other lights in the house as responders. Set via the screens attached below to have 2 of the lights on all night (Foyer Hall Light and Kitchen Hall Light)...and the rest off when the NIGHT button is pressed. Instead, pressing NIGHT turns on all the lights in the house, and has broken all the links again. So the KPL buttons dont turn on/off their respective lights anymore. What am I missing here? I would except this to work correctly how I have it, but obviously I'm doing something wrong here. Appreciate any help again!

Understood, thanks.

Also, in your picture above, you have the "ACTION" heading. I don't have that in my admin council. Below is what I see. Which is why I don't know if I'm trying to control the OFF in the scene correctly. Shown here I have just loaded the 2 lights that are to be ON all night. Loading the other lights into the scene now.

Thanks @MrBill I'm working through this again today. Unfortunately yesterday after building the scene and trying to build the programs around it, I ended up somehow clearing all the links between switches I have (only have links between the KPL buttons and the switches they control and 2 switches that are linked together for a double tap). Also cleared something where Alexa (through Mobilinc) no longer recognizes any of the devices (and can't find them when querying for them). Deleted those scenes, manually setup the links between switches again, and now trying my hand at these scenes. However, while working through this, I'm questioning whether a scene is really needed for the type of NIGHT or MOVIE scene, for example. Wouldn't it be easier to use a program? If NIGHT button is pressed ON, then turn on 2 lights and turn off all other lights. Easy program. Amy I missing something there where a scene is more advantageous? Now controlling the LED's is another "problem" I'll like to tackle after I get the NIGHT button program or scene done.

I found in the Wiki how to turn off all the other lights in that scene. Now, it cleared the links that were on those buttons, so they dont work. Only the NIGHT button works. It turns ON all of the lights, instead of just turning on the 2 specified and turning OFF the rest. I must be missing something here. It also now cleared so that Alexa doesn't recognize any lights. Still work to turn on/off via MobiLinc though. Any advice on how to get the LED's to match between the KPL and the local buttons? I've found that on the Wiki too, but it shows some LED programs in the instructions (copy/paste below) but doesn't have instructions on them, so am a bit confused. ISY-99i/ISY-26 INSTEON:Creating a KeypadLinc LED Follow Program - Universal Devices, Inc. Wiki (universal-devices.com) Then Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'KeypadLinc LEDs / Family Evening Scene LED' On Else Wait 2 seconds Set Scene 'KeypadLinc LEDs / Family Evening Scene LED' Off

I've got a 6 button KPL that I've setup recently (first KPL for me). All works well with the buttons linked (via manual link, except the OFF button is an ALL OFF for the basement lights so that is a program). One of the buttons (D) is my NIGHT button. That button is setup to turn on the two lights I would like to be on all night (Kitchen Hall Light and Foyer Hall Light) with a scene ("NIGHT LIGHTS"). Essentially turn on 2 lights and turn off all other lights. First time for me using a scene. How do I have that scene turn off all the other lights though? Do I set a program that if NIGHT is pressed on, then to turn off all the lights (list them individually). Or do I turn them off in the scene? Essentially the scene turns on the desired lights right now and ties them to the desired button on the KPL. But how do I have that button turn lights off in that same scene? Or, do you turn lights off only via a program. After this I'm tackling having the LED control (so KPL and location switches match). I've read up on that, definitely have some questions, but wanted to make sure I had the ON/OFF setup correctly before attempting that. Those two lights are also part of a sunset/sunrise program I have with them and other lights outside. So when sunrise comes, I'd like those lights turn off like normal + the KPL button LED turned off. Thank you for any help.