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I'm not sure of the comms, I think you're probably right that the remote, blinds and EISY all need to know what each other are doing. It doesn't seem that I can affect the polling interval via EISY anyway, when I change wake-interval it doesn't affect the comms. The downside is that the remote battery loses about 1% a day which gives the batteries about a 3 month lifespan. If anyone finds this thread and has some info, I'll be standing by. In the meantime, @Techman, I appreciate the feedback.

I called Bali and spoke to their motorization team. They offered a suggestion about resetting the remote to factory default which I will try, but there we're unable to provide specific information on the protocol-level stuff. I found a thread in another home automation forum that references the same problem. No solution is provided. Meanwhile, I've set the wake interval to 86400 (24h) via console and I see the write has taken place, but the interval still seems to be 3 minutes. I'm trying to understand the nature of the command/response. the comms are pasted below. It looks like a command ("D2D Event") is sent from one side, and a response ("ZY003_199") is sent, presumably in return. The remote is listed in console as ZY003_199. Can anyone tell me if this is the EISY initiating the polling or the remote? Also, I'm still unclear if it necessary to have the remote paired with EISY to allow both to control the blinds. Seems like both EISY and remote need to be paired to the blinds, but unclear about the remote-EISY pairing. Any help appreciated! This log repeats every 3 minutes: Wed 03/05/2025 10:52:45 : [D2D EVENT ] Event [ZY003_199] [ST] [100] uom=51 prec=0 Wed 03/05/2025 10:52:45 : [ZY003_199 ] ST 100 (uom=51 prec=0) Wed 03/05/2025 10:52:45 : [D2D EVENT ] Event [ZY003_199] [DON] [100] uom=78 prec=0 Wed 03/05/2025 10:52:45 : [ZY003_199 ] DON 100 (uom=78 prec=0) Wed 03/05/2025 10:52:45 : [D2D EVENT ] Event [ZY003_199] [ST] [0] uom=51 prec=0 Wed 03/05/2025 10:52:45 : [ZY003_199 ] ST 0 (uom=51 prec=0) Wed 03/05/2025 10:52:45 : [D2D EVENT ] Event [ZY003_199] [DOF] [0] uom=78 prec=0 Wed 03/05/2025 10:52:45 : [ZY003_199 ] DOF 0 (uom=78 prec=0)

TY. That is helpful, I'll give them a call. I see on the forums that they have been pretty good at solving problems. Will report back.

Had some problems looking for documentation because of this exact issue. They are Bali blinds, with Somfy motors.

Sorry, I made a late edit. I installed the blinds right from the box with no external GW. Looking at the Bali website, they tout “native” Z-wave as a feature and the remote that shipped with the blinds has a Z-Wave Plus sticker.

Edit: The motors on the blinds are "native" z-wave. I don't know if they have a built-in gateway between RTS and Z-wave or are actually z-wave, but there are no external gateways and they pair using Z-wave protocol. I'm not sure. I tried to look up in the spec sheet, but blinds were purchased thru Costco so not sure model of Somfy motors. Is there a way to tell? Not sure if relevant, but the blinds are paired with Z-Wave include command to both the supplied remote and the EISY, and the remote was paired the same way with EISY.

Hello - New to Z-wave, but I see in the event viewer and the log that EISY is (attempting to?) waking-up the Z-Wave remote I use for Somfy blinds every three minutes. This seems excessive, but I'm not really sure if the remote responds to these requests. I'm concerned that it will lead to short battery life for the remote. I see that I can make changes to this interval on EISY by selecting the remote and setting the interval but I don't know what the comm are for and if changing the interval is a good idea. Anyone shed any light? TY Log: Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 0% Mon 2025/03/03 00:24:21 System Unknown Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 100% Mon 2025/03/03 00:27:22 System Unknown Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 0% Mon 2025/03/03 00:27:22 System Unknown Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 100% Mon 2025/03/03 00:30:23 System Unknown Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 0% Mon 2025/03/03 00:30:23 System Unknown Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 100% Mon 2025/03/03 00:33:25 System Unknown Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 0% Mon 2025/03/03 00:33:25 System Unknown Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 100% Mon 2025/03/03 00:36:26 System Unknown Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 0% Mon 2025/03/03 00:36:26 System Unknown Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 100% Mon 2025/03/03 00:39:27 System Unknown Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 0% Mon 2025/03/03 00:39:27 System Unknown Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 100% Mon 2025/03/03 00:42:29 System Unknown Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 0% Mon 2025/03/03 00:42:29 System Unknown Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 100% Mon 2025/03/03 00:45:30 System Unknown Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 0% Mon 2025/03/03 00:45:30 System Unknown Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 100% Mon 2025/03/03 00:48:32 System Unknown Main House / Shades / ZY 003 Shade_Remote / ZY 003 Wake Up Status 0% Mon 2025/03/03 00:48:32 System Unknown

Excellent info with a compact delivery! Thank you!

That explains that. I will look for instructions from the Aeotec side. You don’t happen to know how those parameters are set from within the device, do you? They mention. The “configuration command class” but I’m not sure how that is implemented.

I'm taking this approach and testing. I set a $Temp_HIGH variable to 1 when the initial event is triggered and do not trigger again if the variable value is already 1. I have a second program that sets $Temp_HIGH to 0 when the temp is below 80 and the value is already 1. Any feedback on how to handle this in a different way is welcomed: Program #1 Temp_HIGH - [ID 0018][Parent 0001] If 'ZY 011 Home Security Alarm / ZY 011 Multilevel Sensor' Temperature > 80.0°F And $Temp_HIGH is 0 Then $Temp_HIGH = 1 Set 'Main House / Fans / Server Fan' On Send Notification to 'Prowl-Normal' content '!Temp_HIGH' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Program #2 Temp_LOW - [ID 0047][Parent 0001] If 'ZY 011 Home Security Alarm / ZY 011 Multilevel Sensor' Temperature < 80.0°F And $Temp_HIGH is 1 Then $Temp_HIGH = 0 Set 'Main House / Fans / Server Fan' Off Send Notification to 'Prowl-Normal' content '!Temp_HIGH' Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') EDIT:: This works fine for my purposes. Marked as solved in case it helps others.

I have a simple program to trigger an Insteon switchlink and send notification when Aeotec sensor temperature goes above 80 degrees. The problem is, when the temp stays above 80, the program will continue to run, triggering the switchlink and sending notifications unnecessarily. The program uses the Status of the device (image3.jpg), when I do similar programs for Insteon devices I use "control" instead of status, but I don't see the temperature sensor listed under control (image4.jpg). Any tips?

Hi - I have the Aeotec sensor working as expected on my EISY to trigger events based on temperature. I would like to make changes to the parameters of the device and found this manual that describes parameters and values. For example, I have no need for LUX or Motion sensors and I'd like to shut them off to save battery life. One the EISY, I see a place to change these parameters but having two problems using it (see image1.jpg). I am having trouble locating a manual with all the parameters. I found the parameter for a similar device from Aeotec (https://www.benext.eu/static/manual/aeotec/multisensor-6-ZW100-C.pdf), but my device is a 3-way sensor (TriSensor (ZWA005). Not sure how to push to device. I figured this out, use HW button on device to wake and then set Wake-Up to Keep Awake on console. When I set the device to Wake and choose "Set Parameters", I see the comms in the event window, but status of Motion Detector doesn't change. Suspect I'm using wrong parameter or value. P.S., I'm creating two separate posts for two issues to keep things organized. Second problem (program logic issue) solved. P.S.2, I added screenshot of the manual I found and linked above.

Just getting started with this, and following instructions found in the link below. The goal is to have both the EISY and the included z-wave remote control the blinds. I added the blinds to EISY and can control them as expected. I then followed the instructions to pair the Bali premium remote control to the EISY and this succeeded as well. Following the instructions, I then paired the remote control to the blinds which is successful. The remote works as expected until I use EISY to control the shade, at that point the remote stops being able to control the blinds while the EISY still can. [minor edit to describe things better] It is as if the blinds can only be paired to a single controller, although the link (and Bali's support folks) say otherwise. I'm looking for any insight into what I should be looking for, any tests that may show what is happening, or really a better understanding of the process (e.g., why does remote have to be paired to EISY?) Haven't found much in the forum, hoping someone has worked through this and can help. Attached is a screenshot of the EISY console. TY

@dbwarner5: Got it! For some reason there was a delay in My Alexa "seeing" the new device under Smarthome. But, it works perfectly at this point. TY for the help.

@dbwarner5: I have the variable created and the program to change it from 0 to 1 when event occurs. I have the mapping created in the ISY portal as a device/motion detector and added a spoken. But...when I go into the Alexa app to create a routine, I do not have "Motion Detector" as an option under "Select an Event". I have a bunch of categories, but none of them include motion detector. Couple screen shots attached. Wonder if you have any pointers?

Seems obvious, got it. I have gotten the info I asked for, to keep the thread on point I'll mark solved. Thank you for the suggestions.

Working through all the suggestions, thank you. I have EISY, cannot seem to figure out how to find and install plugins. Sounds basic, but I cannot find the option. Can some one point me>?

Appreciate the quick responses, few follow-ups: @paulbates: This is most appealing of the options, nothing else to buy. I've looked through the forum and at Alexa app and cannot find a Event for any of the Insteon devices even though they are recognized devices within Alexa. Any idea where I can find additional info? @JTsao: I have the z-wave module on my EISY, but haven't added any devices yet. I assume the EISY programs (If...then...else) controls this device once added? Thanks to both of you.

Hello - I am looking for suggestions to create an audio alert when a open/close sensor is triggered. I have a visual alert (a nightlight plugged into an Insteon outlet), but would also like some sort of sound. I've used the "Beep" function for this, but I'm finding that it is too subtle. Any suggestions? TY

Older, single-band devices and some noise on the wire contributed to this. The devices have been replaced and comms are as expected. TY @IndyMike for the decoding help, I've found the explanations useful in other troubleshooting of I1 vs I2 devices. Marking solved.

As suggested by replies, combination of bad programming, older devices, and a questionable PLM contributed to this problem. I can't say specifically which of the changes solved the problem, but it no longer exists. A smoking gun would have been nice, but marking solved as the troubleshooting was helpful. Thanks all.

Not sure if it is implemented, but it would be possible to use the MAC/Insteon ID to get a FW update to the devices. Wouldn't work over a WAN, but within the local network the capability is there. (I rarely get to offer any expertise, but network guy by trade.)

That is a great answer, thank you. I think what you've said, along with @lilyoyo1's point about the upgradability of the new platform makes the decision for me. Appreciate the feedback. And, removing ALL ON from the command suite is ultimately a good marketing move. That uncommanded command was responsible for giving home automation a bad rep in my fam.

Thanks, all for the opinions and info. Does anyone know if the powerline protocol has been updated, similar to the way it was updated between I1 and I2? I'm not an expert on this category, but I2 devices perform noticeably better in my somewhat noisy environment and any additional improvement would be a consideration for me. Thanks again for the input so far.

@IndyMike, all good info. Making suggested changes to simplify programs. I was wondering about the "Link for responder XX.XX.XX not found" as well. I tracked down the MAC/Insteon ID and restored both the device and the PLM, but still they persist. I believe all of the devices listed are KPLs if that sheds any light. Looking at any logs of what happens "on the wire" always yields a few mysteries (I'm a network guy). Found that all mysteries do not need to be solved so taking that approach. Appreciate the insight as always, will post back if anything interesting happens. Otherwise, I'll close the thread in a week or so.