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Is there a way to tweak it to try more times? I am pretty sure the RF distance is an issue, but that is where the door is so not sure what else I can do? Open to suggestions, but I realize there may not be a way around my problem. Thanks LeeG

The motion detector is working again, but I am still trying to figure out if the communication between the motion senso and the nearest dual-band device is the cause of the problem. I was able to capture the attached debug when the program was triggered. Wondering if anyone can look at it and assess the communication on the network? The motion detector is 2D.64.89. The program that gets triggered: door-programs.txt The log file: ISY-Events-Log.v4.1.2__Fri 2014.10.03 12.21.03.txt Thanks! ISY-Events-Log.v4.1.2__Fri 2014.10.03 12.21.03.txt door-programs.txt

HI larryllix, Thank you. I will enable the level3 debug and set the unit to 'off' disabled. My program logic doesn't use the 'off' command anyway - I'm using the "control" function to trigger the program. Will report back.

Sorry for ambiguous title, not sure what the actual problem is. The motion sensor occasionally reports as "on" in the ISY console regardless of its actual status. I can place it right next to a dual-band receiver (to account for possible RF distance issues), put it in a drawer (to account for spurious motion detection), and even take the battery out (for who knows why) but ISY still reports as "on". When this problem isn't happening, ISY reports the detector as off. This happens about once every two weeks Notes: I have on/off checked in "options" so that off command is sent when timeout value expires. When I check status from ISY (after pressing "set" button), it reads the motion detector fine. I've changed batteries. Any troubleshooting tips?

Thank you for the suggestion. Philosophically, it is a little hard for me to justify buying another piece to supplement a piece (presumably the PLM) that isn't working correctly, but from a tech standpoint the idea is a good one. I'm going to bark up the Insteon tree and see what they say. I'll report back as appropriate. Great forum, thanks again all.

Thanks all.

Thanks for the info, hoping to get some more details. Beta test: is the beta a new piece of hardware, or just firmware (I assume hardware). If so, any suggestions on how to get my hands on it? Program to query i/o sensor: any idea what interval would work? And perhaps some sample code? Any help is appreciated as I just saw on the camera that my damn garage door is up unexpectedly.

Hi all, I have an occasional problem where all the devices in my network are triggered on, apparently by an Insteon motion detector (link to this problem here). Although I did narrow it down to a motion detector-triggered event, the problem was never solved. Most of the devices that get triggered during this anomalous event are just lights and are of little consequence, but one of the devices that gets triggered is a Insteon relay that I use to open/close the garage door which is a bit more of an issue for me. To mitigate the unsolvable problem, I would like to receive a notification if the garage door relay is triggered. Unfortunately, the rouge commands that triggers all my devices on (and consequently opens the door) isn't the result of a program and I'm not sure how to do this or if it is possible. TLDR; I have notifications setup for program-triggered events, but I'd like to have a status change of a device send a notification if possible. Thanks for any input. :Mike

Here are the preceeding events. The "Beeps" are triggered by the motion sensor on the door and are used as an alert. Main House / Keypads / Front Door Status 50% Wed 2014/06/04 16:03:41 System Log Main House / Keypads / Front Door Off 0 Wed 2014/06/04 16:04:41 Program Log Scene:South Gate Open Off 0 Wed 2014/06/04 16:04:41 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Front Door Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:04:42 System Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom / Bedroom E Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:04:42 System Log Main House / Motion-Door Sensors / Motion Sensor - Sensor Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:04:48 System Log Main House / Motion-Door Sensors / Motion Sensor - Sensor Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:16:57 System Log Main House / Keypads / Front Door On 255 Wed 2014/06/04 16:16:57 Program Log Scene:South Gate Open On Wed 2014/06/04 16:16:58 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:16:58 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:16:58 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:16:58 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:16:58 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Front Door Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:16:58 System Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom / Bedroom E Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:16:58 System Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:16:59 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:01 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:01 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:01 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Front Door On 255 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:01 Program Log Scene:South Gate Open On Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:02 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:02 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:02 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:02 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:02 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:03 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:04 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:07 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:08 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:08 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:09 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:09 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:10 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:10 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:12 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:12 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:13 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:13 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:14 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:14 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:14 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Front Door On 127 Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:44 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Front Door Status 50% Wed 2014/06/04 16:17:44 System Log Main House / Motion-Door Sensors / Motion Sensor - Sensor Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:18:01 System Log Main House / Keypads / Front Door Off 0 Wed 2014/06/04 16:18:44 Program Log Scene:South Gate Open Off 0 Wed 2014/06/04 16:18:44 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Front Door Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:18:44 System Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom / Bedroom E Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:18:45 System Log Main House / Motion-Door Sensors / Motion Sensor - Sensor Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:19:55 System Log Main House / Keypads / Front Door On 255 Wed 2014/06/04 16:19:55 Program Log Scene:South Gate Open On Wed 2014/06/04 16:19:56 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:19:56 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:19:56 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:19:56 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:19:56 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Front Door Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:19:56 System Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:19:57 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:19:57 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:19:58 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:00 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:00 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:00 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:01 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:03 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:03 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:04 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Front Door On 255 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:04 Program Log Scene:South Gate Open On Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:05 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:05 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:05 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom / Bedroom E Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:06 System Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:07 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:08 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:08 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:09 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:09 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:10 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:10 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:12 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:12 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:13 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:13 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:14 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:14 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:16 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:16 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:17 Program Log Main House / Garage Door Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:17 Program Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Beep 250 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:17 Program Log

Yes, all devices triggered. Battery status shows OK, but I can replace easily enough so I'll try that. Sorry for poor formatting, but these are the relevant log entries. All listed in black whereas other log entries are blue. I haven't read enough about logs yet to know what is wht, but I'm reading now. Main House / Keypads / Office Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Main House / Keypads / Office / Office H Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Main House / Bathroom N Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Outside / South Lights Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Main House / Living Room Track Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Main House / Kitchen Track Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Main House / Keypads / Back Door Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Main House / Keypads / Back Door / Back Door H Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Outside / North Lights Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Outside / West Lights Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Main House / Bathroom S Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom / Bedroom H Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Main House / Living Room Lamp Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Main House / Keypads / Front Door / Front Door H Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Main House / Kitchen Accents Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Main House / Kitchen Cabinet Cans Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Main House / Kitchen Island Cans Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Shed / Track 1 Shed Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Shed / Track 2 Shed Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Shed / Front Porch Shed Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Shed / Back Porch Shed Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Shed / Desk Shed Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log Shed / Desk Shed / Desk Shed H Status 100% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:39 System Log [i added this break for clarity. Not sure what was going on, but a pause of ~3 seconds] Main House / Keypads / Office Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Main House / Keypads / Office / Office H Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Main House / Bathroom N Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Outside / South Lights Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Main House / Living Room Track Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Main House / Kitchen Track Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Main House / Keypads / Back Door Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Main House / Keypads / Back Door / Back Door H Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Outside / North Lights Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Outside / West Lights Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Main House / Bathroom S Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Main House / Keypads / Bedroom / Bedroom H Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Main House / Living Room Lamp Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Main House / Keypads / Front Door Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Main House / Keypads / Front Door / Front Door H Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Main House / Kitchen Accents Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Main House / Kitchen Cabinet Cans Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Main House / Kitchen Island Cans Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Shed / Track 1 Shed Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Shed / Track 2 Shed Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Shed / Front Porch Shed Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Shed / Back Porch Shed Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Shed / Desk Shed Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Shed / Desk Shed / Desk Shed H Status 0% Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:42 System Log Ignore / Unused Error 0 Wed 2014/06/04 16:20:45 System Log

Hi all, Obligatory thank yous in advance, this forum has been a great source of information. Over the last few days, the lights in my house have been triggered on without my input. Sometimes it is one light (on a keypad link), and most recently it was every device on my network all at once (approx 20 devices of various types, including an I/O link used to control garage door!). The events do not occur at any regular time or in concurrence with any other activity on the Insteon network that I know of. And, there are no programs that include every device, so I can't imagine it was a programmed event. When I look at the logs, it shows the events occurring, but I cannot tell what triggered them. Is it possible that some local RF source is causing the problem? Or possibly that the ISY box is being accessed from outside (I have a static NAT setup thru router, but do not use the default user/password). Quite disturbing, any ideas how to troubleshoot? Thanks!

You are right, I screwed-up the name of the module. Insteon says: "Please note that INSTEON Wireless Open/Close Sensor (2843-222) is the new product name and number of TriggerLinc (2421)." So, it is a triggerlinc not a togglelinc. That said, I think your solution will work - it makes sense logically. Let me give it a try and see. Thank you

Hi all, I have a togglelinc on my front door, and a motion sensor on front gate. Both work fine, but I'd like to combine them in a way that the condition of the togglelinc determines what program runs when the motion sensor is triggered. That is, if the front door (togglelinc) is open and motion detector is triggered then action1 is performed, but if front door (togglelinc) is closed and motion detector is triggered then action12 is performed. I'm not sure how to do this because togglelinc doesn't seem to indicate a current state (open or closed), it just reports a change in state (when door is opened or closed). I'm not sure how to write the program do "check" the togglelinc. I am looking at docs, but thought I'd ask the forum to see if there is a "smart" way to do this. Thanks any/all. :Mike

The beeps are not loud, but they can be made to happen in a lot of places so that helps! I'm using the beeps as a stopgap measure for chimes, but still looking for a more comprehensive solution. The idea of an I/Olinc and doorbell is a good one and I may try that later. Right now, I'm going ot try to figure somehting out with no new equipment as my SO continues to see these packages from Irvine, CA on the doorstep. Anyway I'll say again, this forum is great. Thanks for the help. :Mike

OK, thanks to all. I've got that program working, and learned a bit while doing it.

I see a "beep duration" setting, is there a way to make one or more of my Insteon devices beep? I have switchlincs, outletlincs and keypads. And, back to the original problem (Sorry for jumping around). I can't get the trigger/response to work correctly by following the examples above. I have a program "Door Trigger" that says: If Motion Sensor is on and light1 is at 100% Then Run "Door Responder" The "Door Responder" program says: set lamp1 fast on wait 2 seconds set lamp1 fast off wait 2 seconds set lamp1 fast on wait 2 seconds set lamp1 100% (to return lamp1 to its previous level of 100%) Problem is, lamp1 continues to cycle on/off way beyond the 3 blinks I have asked for. I think Door Trigger program gets triggered again b/c the motion sensor is still ON. I tried setting timeout for MS at .5, and I tried sending a "set motion sensor off" command through the program, but I don't think the device supports those options. Sorry if I'm being thick.

This is not technically on-topic, but maybe someone has already come-up with a creative solution for how to use the motion sensor for a "doorbell"? Blinking a household light is somewhat effective (above problems notwithstanding), but it isn't an exact fit. Maybe a sound as well? I have an outletlinc that I can plug something into, but not sure what to plug into it. Thoughts?

Thank you for the replies. I'm going to play with these ideas and see what I can make happen. Will report back. :Mike

Hi all, I am playing with my new Motion Sensor, and have run across a puzzle. Hope I can get some suggestions. I'd like the sensor to trigger a scene that blinks one or two lights in the house when it is triggered (using it as a "doorbell"). I can write a program that flashes the lights (turns a scene on/off in succession), but once the program is run the light will either be left ON or OFF regardless of its status before the scene was triggered. It would be nice if I could somehow return the lights that were blinking to their previous state when the program was completed. Like maybe query the device for the on state and use that variable to return the devices when the program is done. Any suggestions are appreciated! Thanks. :Mike Walker (walkman9999)

Moving it to the top level was the trick, thanks all.

Thanks for reply. If I right-click on the device, I do not seem to have a "Replace with...." option. (see attached)

I'm replacing hardware (switchlinc for switchlinc) and would like to pull the old switchlinc and have its link database copied onto the brand new replacement. I am experimenting with the "restore device" option, but I think it will be looking for the old Insteon ID. Is there a way to copy the old link database to the new device or do I have to add the new one and manually re-create the links? I have a feeling the answer is obvious, but I cannot find. Thanks any/all.

Thanks Bill, I like the paradigm of simplifying things rather than using the complex solution I was getting myself into. Seems like keeping it as simple as possible leaves more avenues open as the requirements change. Appreciate the input, I'm considering this problem solved! :Mike

That seems to work wonderfully. However, while testing I realized that I use the formerly separate scenes when adjusting lighting via mobilelinc. I suppose I could just have the former "High Hang" and "Low Hang" scenes still exist and not associated with the keypadlinc buttons anymore so that they were accessible through mobilelinc. Would this be the most "graceful" way to accomplish this? Or is there a better solution? (As an aside, I find this forum to be invaluable, and appreciate the great advice!!) :Mike EDIT: The only problem I see with the above solution is that when a scene is activated via mobilelinc, there is no keypad indication that the scene is "on". So someone local to house would not have an accurate status of the scenes. (Admittedly, this is a bit pedantic!) EDIT #2: I think I figured it out! If I add "B" and "D" as responders to both "High Hang" and "Low Hang", they will reflect the status of the scene even if it is triggered via mobilelinc. And, those same buttons can still be controllers of my new scene that has various light levels. Would still like confirmation as to whether this is the best way to accomplish my goal if anyone cares to comment. Thanks all!

Good day all, I have two mutually exclusive scenes that should never be on at the same time. One is the lower light version of the other. Each scene has a keypadlinc button assigned as a controller. Lower light scene ("Low Hang") uses button "B", the higher light level ("High Hang") uses button "C" across all my keypads. Is it possible to have scene "B" turn scene "C" off when it is activated, and to have scene "C" turn off scene "B"? Thank you for any input. :Mike