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Ah you're right ober, I remember I had this same issue before. I keep thinking you can't control a scene because in the ISY program, I always from the drop down assume you'd pick Scene to change a scene, which of course is just to modify stuff in a scene. I never think to pick SET instead and then pick the scene so that's awesome, was a bit leery on relying on the Vera. Side note, can the load on a KPL not dim?? I put one in my front foyer which has amazing dimming lights, but it's either 100% super bright on, or off. Under SET I don't have any options like picking brightness level, same with in the ISY like you would on a dimmer. Bit disappointed there, this is a 6 scene KPL. Not really end of the world but assumed everything could dim!

Actually I can do what I want with the Vera since I use Vera as the main controller and the ISY just for Insteon stuff. Vera can turn an Insteon scene on or off even if the ISY can't. So I just made a scene which has just one Keypadlinc button as the controller. When you turn it on or off on the ISY the LED goes on or off on the KPL. So I can just set a scene in the Vera to say if the status of the lamp is on, turn on ISY scene and if it's off turn it off. Edit: That worked! Just made a quick scene if the lamp status is on, Vera tells the ISY to turn on the Lamp scene, and if it's off it tells it to turn it off. Did it as a test and if I turn the lamp on from my cell, it immediately updates on the KPL.

I didn't know a program could activate a scene, I thought it could only modify properties of one like the light level of something etc.. When I say manually I mean turning it on like by using a mobile app. Normally I'd use a dimmerlinc on this lamp (making it a controller does nothing to turn the LED on on the keypadlinc) but I figured since I had a spare LED bulb I'd use it. I mean at the end of the day, a lamp with an LED Insteon bulb or a Dimmerlinc is going to do the same thing, unless you consider getting on your hands and knees to turn it on at the outlet convenience lol. This lamp will pretty much only ever manually be turned on by the keypadlinc, but every night it comes on at sunset to about 3am, so was just hoping to have the keypadlinc reflect that. The only reason it's a pain right now is because if the lamp is on and I want to turn it off (and turned it on either manually or with the timer), you basically have to press it twice on the keypadlinc, once to make the LED light up on the keypad, and then again to turn it off. So just not really overly friendly to anyone that you haven't explained how to turn the lamp on to. Was hoping to have a button that says LAMP making it obvious how to do it, but someone pressing it just once might think it doesn't work since you'd have to press it twice. I think I know the answer now to this, but does this mean that I also can't do like I was hoping and say if the front door opens, the Keypadlinc LED flashes 10 times, or if hidden door sensor changes to Open, the keypad lights up BUT stays lit for 10 minutes and then goes off? Wanted that in my bedroom so that if someone comes in, the keypad would light up but stay on vs right now where they close the door it immediately goes off.

The light is an Insteon LED bulb so can't make it a controller, guess that's a deal breaker then eh? I can put it back to a Dimmerlinc just figured I could get away with using an LED since the Keypadlinc is literally right beside it. Have a bunch of the LEDs but hard to find uses for them due to how you turn them on or off.

Hey everyone, bit lost here. I have a KeyPad linc where Scene B button turns my lamp on or off as it's a controller of the scene with the lamp a responder. If I turn the lamp on manually or rather through the ISY etc, the keypadlinc light stays off. I was reading here http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=ISY-99i/ISY-26_INSTEON:Controlling_KeypadLinc_LEDsbut not really understanding it. How can I set it so that any time the lamp is on, the Scene B button on the keypad lights up and whenever it's off it turns off? Similar basically to the way it works as a scene. Thanks!

Thanks everyone that's a great help, I'll look into all of that. I didn't realize how to control a scene from a program because when you are in the program editor and click the drop down for an action where it says Insteon, Wait, etc I would always just go to Scene. Under there it just has the control a device in a scene option so I didn't think to look under Insteon to see how to turn a scene on or off. I'll test the suggestions above out tomorrow and let everyone know. Thanks!

I mean is there a way to use a program to schedule a scene to be allowed on or off, or is it always on? The problem is that if you use 2 lights (2 switchlinc) and a motion sensor on a scene, both lights turn on the moment you walk in the room. If you use the ISY to program IF motion is detected type thing, turn on these lights, then the one light comes on maybe half a second to 1 second slower than with a scene, and the second light is a good second behind. So it's like walk in, pause, light one comes on, pause, light 2 comes on. Same with turning it off if I press down on the switchlinc which is a virtual 3 way switch, the lights aren't in sync there's a delay. Just wondering how other than a scene to make that better or is that just the best I can get? It's not horrible but it's slower than when using a scene, to the point that I'd rather live with the lights coming on from motion 24/7 vs a schedule even though I don't want it on during the day, just because it's a better experience when you do trip the motion.

I have a bathroom switchlinc that is in a scene with a motion sensor as the controller. I have it this way because it's a lot faster when it's part of a scene, vs having the ISY turn the lights on with an IF command. Problem of course is that it's more limited, but is there any way in the ISY to only allow a scene to run at certain times? Basically what I want is a scene where the motion sensor is the controller for the light and turns it on, but only allow that to happen on a certain schedule. Is that possible, or do I have to do it with programs? I don't see any options for "Enable" or "Disable" a scene, or really anything relating to them other than adjust a device in a scene. Thanks.