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Just thought I would give an update to this adventure. As you may recall, I had 2 Powerwall 3's along with 2 Gateways installed. Almost immediately, I experienced flickering of all lights (LED) that were connected to Insteon dimmer switches. That is when I came to this forum. We tried the Ferrite Cores primarily they were the least cost (my installer was trying to look out for my wallet). They really did not work Last week, we installed the EMI filters that hopefully will show up in the attached picture. Immediately everything went back to normal. Flickering disappeared, scenes programmed into the eisy started funtioning again as programmed and expected, and accessing devices in my eisy network could now happen again. So, I would say mission accomplished. If you want to know more, my installer is Good Faith Energy in Addisson, TX. Amanda Haines was my project manager. Apologies - they were installed upside down from the label standpoint and I was too lazy to rotate the photo. BTW - These are the same filters discussed by NCSTATE1978 is the early days of this topic thread.

We tried the Ferrite Core solution. It helped a little bit. We could see slight improvements on the O-Scope, but the flickering still is happening. Sometimes my scenes works as scheduled. Just completely random. We have ordered the filter that was referenced in an earlier post. The installation is a little bit more involved than the Ferrite Cores. No problems with any electronic devices in the house. TV's, AC units, furnance, tankless hot water heater, Mesh network, internet, ..... are all functioning as expected. You might want to shut your PW3's down. After doing that all of your Insteon and eisys devices should function normally. That will verify the PW3's are interfering with the nornal sine curve of the electricity in your house. Insteon devices according to my conversation with the engineers there like the sine curve to between 59.5 - 60.5 Hz. The stuff coming out of the PW3 was around 62.5 Hz. The only time everything appeared to function normally with the PW3, other than when I shut them down, was when the Severe Weather mode charged all my PW3's to 100%.

Found it. Just forgot to clear the Java cache

Just upgraded to IoX Launcher Version 6.0.4. It just so happens that I had an upgrae to Java at the same time. Dumb luck. Where can I find the statup.jnlp file so I can "create" a new version of the Admin Console that is compatible with Version 6.0.4 Thanks

I remember reading something about a new usesr interface, eisy.ui. Right now I am using the Admin Console which required Java Runtime Environment. I know every time I update Java I need to "rerun" the startup file to get the Launcher to bring up the Admin Console. Will the new UI be easier to use? I have lots of folders and scenes created through the Admin Console. Do they automatically port over to the new UI? Is there a Users Manual for the new UI?

@NightStorm If you "talk" to NCSTATE1978, he will tell you the inline filters completely solved his problem. Right now, my installer (in the DFW Area - Good Faith Energy) is getting ready to install the Ferrite Core solution. I am keeping my fingers crossed. The cost will definitely depend on your installers labor cost. The materials for the Ferrite Core solution are about $400 and the In-Line filter (look in the NCSTATE1978 post for the part number) will run about $900. The in-line filter will require about 3 hours of labor whereas the Ferrite Core labor is about 1 hour. There are some additional materals needed for the In-Line Filter. [Numbers assume a 2 PW3 installation] The blinking or flickering is rather annoying. It only affects my dimmer switch installations. What is really annoying for me is not knowing if the programs will function as they did before PW3. Plus, you can not diagnose anything because the communication timing is all our of whack. I had some earlier Lutron devices, but really was not impressed by them. I am sure they have improved since then. I am considered some of the Z-Wave/Zigbee/Matter devices for outside. However, I really am dependent on scene programming. You can turn off your batteries to make sure everything really is working and perform a diagnosis. Keep working with your installer. Show them this thread. I will say the minute I sent this thread to my installer, it went private or required a login.

No. One of the engineers with my installer has been working with Tesla on this very issue. He, along with Tesla, developed a Ferrite Core, similar to one discussed in this thread. They are familar with the Enphase In-Line filter that was the solution for NCSTATE1978. Right now, they are working on estimates for both solutions. I want to know the difference in the labor and other materials since they did say they would refund the cost of the Ferrite Cores if those did not work. They are leaning towards the Ferrite Core since it has been successful in a couple of other installs. However, I do not believe the other installs had INSTEON or EISY as part of the environment. Just dimmer switches. As far as I can tell, Tesla is aware of the issues and has not said anyhting about voiding the warranty.

@jkraus I did a little Google search using RPC1508-64. Several good hits. The Enphase page gave me a price around $420. There were some imdependent sources that were around $350 and EBay source in the $230 range. Obviously, there were would be an installation charge and electricians are not cheap. @NCSTATE78 Thanks. Strange that my installer (who does not have a forum id/pw) can no longer see this thread.

@NCSTATE78 I know it sounds like I am stalking you, but you appear to have solved the problems that I am also experiencing. Currently, my installer is recommedning a Gapped Ferrite (65 A) filter on 4 lines. If I recall correctly, this was a "solution" that sort of worked, but not completely. Is there an way for my installer to contact your installer to discus your specific installation to see if we are similar. I wish I knew of a way to Private Mesaage you so I could give you my email address so we could exchange the information that would better ID us for the installer communicaiton. Thanks

NCSTATE1978 on page 4 of this disccussion gives an image of the Enphase filter that solved his issues, which were the same as ours (blinking and communication lag)..

@NCSTATE78 Thanks for the quick response. My installer is also an ENPHASE installer so this might be a quick resolution. I am getting ready issue a "trouble ticket." I gave them the link to the forum topic chain so they can see all the discussions on this topic.

@bigDvette @NCSTATE78 Do you think the install of the ENPHASE Filter and/or Whole House Sure Protector provided the solution for blinking and communication issues?

Thanks for the update. I will talk to the installer tomorrow. In this thread there appears to be a couple of viable options. My electrical system has 2 breaker panels. One panel is for all of the wall outlets and one is for all the switches. There is a Surge Protector (did not see a model number) with 2 indicators labeled Line 1 and Line 2. I am assuming that is handling both panels. One of the other options talked about an Enphase Filter that sounded like it solved the problem.

Iwas wondering if there have been any updates or succesful solutions. Just installed a dual PW3 configuration and I am experiencing similar problems. In fact, the problems appear to be random. Yes - there is flickering, but it is random. Also, the IoX Console does appear to be rather slow with random communication errors. Like most of the earlier responders, I have an eisy with many insteon devices. The only deivces that appear to be prolematic are the switches - both dimmer and non-dimmer. I did have some programs that did not finction as expected tonight. They would controller both switch, wall outlets, wall "brcks" and micro devices. I also have a couple of 3-way configurations that are acting oddly right now. Probably all related to the same issue.

Turns out the factory defaults worked as desired.

Thanks. I know from the MS1 that the sensitivity was trial and error. I was hoping someone had already gone through a trial and error effort and would have some recommendations.

I have replace a Motion Senor 1 that worked great for many years with a Motion Sensor 2. I have setup the Motion Condition to "Only at Night." What value do I need for the Night Threshold parameter to ensure the Motion Senor 2 only turns on the light when it is "dark"?

@Brian HThanks for the quick response. I actually have 2 applications. In application #1, I plan to replace a photo sensor switch on the outside of the house that is now shaded by some very healthy landscape. So, if I understand your reponse correctly, in this application I would just tape off the Yellow and Purple (thanks for correcting me) wires coming out of the module. I application #2, I would like to keep the switch active, but would like to have to have the ability to activate the light from a scene in my eisy. So, if I understand your response again, I would attach the yellow wire to the load terminal of the swtich. Did I understand correctly. In application #2, what do I do with the Purple wire? Thanks again. If I would have looked at the Start Up Guide maybe my questions would have been answered.

Quick question on the installation of the 2443-222 On/Off Micro Module installation. I have looked at the installation diagrams. I understand where the load, line and neutral wires that orginally go to the switch are go with regards to the micro module. However, I am unsure where the Yellow and Blank wires from the module go. From the installation diagram, it looks like the Yellow wire from the module goes to the load post on the switch. Where does the Black (or maybe it is dark Blue) from the module go? Thanks

I have a set of lights at the end of my driveway that are turned On/Off from the Photo Electric Cell that is attached to the house. The outlet box is in the front of the house (which faces South). Over the years, the landscape has matured quite well such that it creates a rather nice shade for the Photo Cell. Occasionally, the lights will stay on well past sunrise even close to Noon. I was wondering if I could replace the Photo Cell with the Insteon Micro On-Off (2443-222) device which would be part of a Scene in my eisy that would turn on the lights at Sunset (or some time after) and turn them off at Sunrise? Thanks

i changed 2 parameters - Ramp Up/Down time and the time interval for OFF. The sensor is controlling lights in the hallway - 2-way switch configuration. To the best of my knowledge nothing other than someone in the hallway is triggering an event.

Just wondering if anyone has some good suggesitons on how to get a reasonable "long" battery life from Battery type 123 when using a Motion Sensor 2. I have several Motion Sensor 1's installed controlling outdoor lights like the driveway, patio, front door, etc. They are setup to trigger only at night. The 9v battery lasts quite a long time even in the furnace temps in the SW. I have 2 installations of Motion Sensor 2 controlling lights in hallways. The first one was installed as a Motion Sensor 1 because the ISY firmware had not been updated at the time of the installation. The 2nd Motion Sensor 2 is installed as a Motion Sensor 2 since it was installed after the firmware update. The traffic in both hallways is very similar. The first Mortion Sensor 2 battery will last as long as the 9v batteries in the Mation Sensor 1. I am lucky to get 4 weeks out of the battery in the 2nd Motion Sensor 2. Any suggestions?

Every time my system reboots after an upgrade I receive the following messge in the Notificaiton Center Notification Node Server Free Edition Startup - Please upgrade to Stand Version to get all features. IMy device is an eisy. All firmware and software is up to date. I guess I having been living under a rock. Of course, I am not a real power user, but do enjoy the benefits of the automation it provides. My primary automation devices are Insteon. I know I can have my Rachio controllers, Ecobee Thermostats, and Ring devices integrated into the picture. I am also looking at some automated blinds which I asked about in a different posts. Now, I am curious what I am missing with regards to the Notification Server. I have been looking at some of the posts pertaining to the topic of Standard Notification Server. However, I must my slightly dense because I am not seeing the big picture. So, if someone wants to tackle a simple explanation I would really appreciate it. Also, what would be the steps to installing the Standard Version? If I decided to not install what am I missing? Thanks

@paulbates @Techman Thanks for the inputs. I will probably integrate the second MS1 into the existing scene. I will experiment with your suggestion of a program for the OFF while the MS1's would transmit the ON signal. I did see the ON Only selection in the Options setup. Of source, I really have not been having any problems with battery life with the MS1. In fact, I have a series of programs monitoring the battery life in all my MS1's. It sends me a text when the battery is low. I will probably setup the new configuration probably after the predicted storms this weekend since I need to take down the existing sensor in order to press that magic button in the battery case on both MS1's. I have one of the first MS2 sensors. When I installed it the ISY firmware had not been updated for the MS2. So, it is actually defined as a MS1 in my network. Battery life is similar to 9V in the MS1. This is in a hallway that gets quite a bit of traffic. Timer is set for 30 seconds. All of this is in the MS setup and scene. No program. I have another MS2 in a similar hallway. It was installed after the ISY firmware update so it is defined as a true MS2. Lot more options available in its definition. I tried the ON Only suggestion from above. I never saw an OFF status reported. Not sure if there were some additional options that needed to be set. I then set it to report ON and OFF. That appeared to work, but that is what I originally had in the setup with the scene and not long battery life. I wrote a simple program: If {motion sensor} Status in ON Then SET {light scene - since it is a 2-way configuration} To ON Wait 30 seconds SET (light scene} to OFF Looks simple. However, the OFF never occurs. Not sure what I did wrong. I am currently running with eisy with 5.8.x firmware and IoTx.