LeeG Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I did a quick test of those combinations and confirmed your observations. Note that the only change in 4.1.2 is to use 0/0 as a total Off for all button LEDs, whether the button is logically On or Off. That was the object of this topic, to be able to turn all buttons physically Off at night without having to turn each button logically Off. There is a unique command executed to make 0/0 have all button LEDs Off. Other than that no changes were made in how the KeypadLinc reacts to the other combinations. I suspect that the LEDs in the KeypadLinc have the same limitations larger LED bulbs have in not being able to dim them below a certain level. Makes it impossible to have a button that is Off at the very dim level you are looking for. Link to comment
Teken Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I have followed this thread with great interest. I have confirmed the 0/0 selection does in fact turn off the KPL. How does one make the KPL be off from 9:30 PM to 5:00 AM? I have tested with variation where the KPL is off, but allows the buttons to be lit when activated. Creating a program to mimic what I did with the LED settings does not seem to work in a program. Any help and insight in crafting said program would be greatly appreciated! Much thanks to LeeG in providing the Insteon code to UDI to deploy this feature. Teken . . . Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions Link to comment
racekarl Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Teken, Here's what I have currently. I am by no means an expert, but so far this seems to do what I want. I have two corresponding programs, one that runs at sunrise to set the LED level to off when the linked scene is off, and to a "medium" brightness when the linked scene is on: The companion program runs an hour before sunset to turn the off level of the LEDs to the minimum brightness when the linked scenes are off and their maximum brightness when the scene is on (on brightness is relative to off brightness as Lee noted): Given that's I'm running 4.0.5 I can not ever turn the LEDs completely off when the corresponding scene is on, which is fine for my purpose, but with 4.1.2 if that's what you want to do, set the brightness to 0/0. Note that I'm setting these brightness settings on the KPL6's large buttons (which are in non-toggle on mode, so that when the linked scene is off, the "All off" bottom button does not light). This seems to affect all the sub buttons globally, which is what I wanted. Link to comment
shannong Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I have followed this thread with great interest. I have confirmed the 0/0 selection does in fact turn off the KPL. How does one make the KPL be off from 9:30 PM to 5:00 AM? I run a program that simply sets the KPL LEDs Backlight Level to 0/0. All lights including the OFF button are not lit even though the scenes are active and still usable. Link to comment
Teken Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Could I ask you both to use a time instead of sunset etc. Because this doesn't seem to work for me. Teken . . . Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions Link to comment
shannong Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Could I ask you both to use a time instead of sunset etc. Because this doesn't seem to work for me. Teken . . . Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions BTW. Your post wasn't encrypted. Mine is turned off by a program only using a RemoteLinc2 as the trigger. However, it's turned back on in the morning using sunrise. I'll test with a time trigger now. Link to comment
LeeG Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 This Program just ran successfully, turning all LEDs Off. When turned back to the desired backlight level the buttons that were On will still be On. If Time is 1:55:00PM Then Set 'KeypadLinc v.41' On 0 / Off 0 (Backlight Level) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Link to comment
Teken Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 OK now try to do the same thing where the entire KPL is off / unlit. But program the KPL to light up the LEDS when any of the keys are activated. Does it work in this fashion? Teken . . . Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions Link to comment
shannong Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 It worked. If On Sat Time is 12:54:00PM Then Set '2nd Floor / Bedroom3 / Devices / Bed3-E-KPL.1' On 0 / Off 0 (Backlight Level) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Link to comment
shannong Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 OK now try to do the same thing where the entire KPL is off / unlit. But program the KPL to light up the LEDS when any of the keys are activated. Does it work in this fashion? Teken . . . Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions So you want the press of a button to turn the backlights back on? Link to comment
Teken Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Yes, or if a linked scene is pressed so the user knows that device has been activated. I can do what everyone else has posted except this. Teken . . . Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions Link to comment
shannong Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 All lights were Off. 0/0 I pressed "Fan Med" (button and the LEDs turned back on. If you added a wait you could turn them back off again. If Control '1st Floor / Utility / Devices / Utility-EC-KPL-ExtLights.A' is switched On Or Control '2nd Floor / Bedroom3 / Devices / Bed3-E-KPL.B' is switched On Or Control '2nd Floor / Bedroom3 / Devices / Bed3-E-KPL.C' is switched On Or Control '2nd Floor / Bedroom3 / Devices / Bed3-E-KPL.D' is switched On Then Set '2nd Floor / Bedroom3 / Devices / Bed3-E-KPL.1' On 1 / Off 0 (Backlight Level) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Link to comment
shannong Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I think I'll add this to mine. Turn on briefly and turn back off after 5 seconds. Thanks for the idea! Link to comment
Teken Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Can you make your program with a start time and report back. As it doesn't seem to work with a time from xxx to xxx. Teken . . . Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions Link to comment
LeeG Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 This Program ran successfully If Time is 1:55:00PM Then Set 'KeypadLinc v.41' On 0 / Off 0 (Backlight Level) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Link to comment
Teken Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 But does your program allow the KPL to be lit when pressed or activated by another linked Insteon device? All the while the other LEDS in the KPL remain unlit? This doesn't appear to work at all. Teken . . . Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions Link to comment
shannong Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Success. If Control '1st Floor / Utility / Devices / Utility-EC-KPL-ExtLights.A' is switched On Or Control '2nd Floor / Bedroom3 / Devices / Bed3-E-KPL.B' is switched On Or Control '2nd Floor / Bedroom3 / Devices / Bed3-E-KPL.C' is switched On Or Control '2nd Floor / Bedroom3 / Devices / Bed3-E-KPL.D' is switched On And ( On Sat From 1:20:00PM To 1:30:00PM (same day) ) Then Set '2nd Floor / Bedroom3 / Devices / Bed3-E-KPL.1' On 1 / Off 0 (Backlight Level) Wait 5 seconds Set '2nd Floor / Bedroom3 / Devices / Bed3-E-KPL.1' On 0 / Off 0 (Backlight Level) Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action') Link to comment
shannong Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 But does your program allow the KPL to be lit when pressed or activated by another linked Insteon device? All the while the other LEDS in the KPL remain unlit? This doesn't appear to work at all. Teken . . . Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions Dude, it would be helpful if you'd be more specific in a single, inclusive request. Link to comment
Teken Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 My reply was to LeeG as there is no method to quote on this App Teken . . . Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions Link to comment
shannong Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 But does your program allow the KPL to be lit when pressed or activated by another linked Insteon device? All the while the other LEDS in the KPL remain unlit? This doesn't appear to work at all. Teken . . . Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions The pressed button turns on. Of course the OFF button also lights up since the backlights are turned back on. You cannot control the lighting of buttons on the KPL individually. They all must have the same brightness level. Link to comment
LeeG Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Teken No as far as turning On any button LED while the LEDs have been physically turned Off. The point of the change was to darken the KPL at night. Allowing a button LED to turn On when pressed defeats the function. The button is functional in that it sends an On or Off command when pressed. However the button LED does not respond until the backlight level is moved from the Off (0/0) level. Link to comment
Teken Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Your missing what I am saying completely. If I use 0/0 the entire KPL is unlit. Pressing the buttons with a value of 0/0 does not light up any button. The only method I have found is to use a value of 1. But when you select this option from the drop list WITH a time. It does not work at all. Teken . . . Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions Link to comment
shannong Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 The program I posted seems to do what you're asking. What differs in my program than what you're asking? Link to comment
Teken Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 LeeG, Thanks for confirming my observations. Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions Link to comment
Teken Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 Shannong, I will try your program when I return home. If it does the same action great! I will report back success / failure. Teken . . . Encrypted By: Phoenix Security Solutions Link to comment
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