Very large install options

[sfhutchi]

In my workplace, we are looking at automating the light fixtures. The initial concern is automating light fixtures. The scope is very large and in an industrial setting. It seems that Zigbee is more common in industrial applications? Would an Insteon system work with about 500-1500 inline linc relays (or something like this)?

 

Steve

[LeeG]

In a commercial environment it may be 3 phase power which Smarthome now says is supported with all the Dual Band devices. A PLM holds a maximum of 992 links so multiple PLMs and multiple ISYs would be required for that many Insteon devices. No experience with the other protocols.

[sfhutchi]

In a commercial environment it may be 3 phase power which Smarthome now says is supported with all the Dual Band devices. A PLM holds a maximum of 992 links so multiple PLMs and multiple ISYs would be required for that many Insteon devices. No experience with the other protocols.

 

Good to know. I wonder if we kept it to 500 devices in each 'section' if it would work? What is the largest Insteon network that anyone on here is familiar with? I wonder if we could create a 500 device Insteon / ISY network that would be reliable.

[LeeG]

Hopefully someone familiar with a large commercial environment will jump in.

 

I doubt 500 devices per PLM would work as many Insteon devices use 2 link records in the PLM just to add them to the ISY. That would exceed the PLM capacity. When Scenes are added to the equation the number of devices per PLM is even smaller. Really need to do advance planning regarding what device types and how many Scenes are anticipated. Eight button KeypadLincs take 9 links per device to add to the ISY so you can see the type of device is most important.

 

A commercial environment may use metal boxes. Many houses use metal boxes but the distance is not what a commercial environment would be. I think there are too many questions to expect an absolute Yes. Again, someone who has installed large commercial environments will have many of those answers.

[apostolakisl]

I would think that contacting SH directly would be in order here. If you are seriously looking at an order in the $50k price range, SH should be expected to make sure it works or not sell it to you.

[sfhutchi]

I would think that contacting SH directly would be in order here. If you are seriously looking at an order in the $50k price range, SH should be expected to make sure it works or not sell it to you.

 

Will do... but before I got a 'sales pitch', I thought that I would see if anyone already had some experience with the stability of a large installation like this.

[Brian H]

You may want to get some data on how much noise is floating around on the power lines.

Industrial settings could have lots of noise and spikes on the power lines from machinery.

[sfhutchi]

You may want to get some data on how much noise is floating around on the power lines.

Industrial settings could have lots of noise and spikes on the power lines from machinery.

 

Excellent point.