Forgive me but this is about Garage Doors

[hart2hart]

I've had an open garage door and close door program that used status of a triggerlinc and ioLinc in momentary A mode for 3-4 years that worked well but had to pick program so not simpliest mode for others to use and with a power failure true Triggerlinc status was lost until it was activated again.

 

I just wired a hardwired set of NC contacts to the ioLinc sensor inputs. My goal is to simply open and close garage door by issuing an on (open) or off(close - although on vs off action not really important) command to the ioLinc.

 

Thought it was simple:

Wire contacts -- done

Set ioLinc to Momentary C mode -- done

 

Problem is when turning iolinc on and off, only On command is processed and it either opens or closes door as If ioLinc is still in Momentary A mode and sensor did not exist? Read so many threads but I'm either dense today or missing something? Please help me see the obvious? Am I misreading http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index ... n_I/O_Linc The iolinc is not in a scene -- is that missing link -- no pun intented!

 

[Teken]

Just taking a random stab at this. But is the device you're using to control the I/O Linc for example KPL set to issue a ON, vs Toggle?

 

Teken . . .

[hart2hart]

Thanks for the shot but iolinc is not linked to anything other PLM. Always controlled via simple programs mentioned. At this point I'm turning iolinc on and off from ISY console to test.

[Teken]

Thanks for the shot but iolinc is not linked to anything other PLM. Always controlled via simple programs mentioned. At this point I'm turning iolinc on and off from ISY console to test.

 

Since this is only a test I would reset the I/O Linc and try again. In case its just stuck report back.

 

Teken . . .

[oberkc]

I remain a little uncertain how this all works together, but suspect your issue is a failre to use a scene command to control the IOLinc. Try creating a scene, adding the IOLinc relay as responder. From the admin panel, does issuing scene commands solve your problem?

[hart2hart]

I've already factory reset iolinc and restored via ISY. Did it again and still same results.

[oberkc]

Our message timing makes me suspect you missed my suggestion.

[hart2hart]

I didn't miss it and it works -- Thank you for confirming. It is clear that Iolinc relay must be a responder to scene tht is controlled and that one can't directly set ioLinc relay state in combination with Momentary C and get desired results. Again Thanks.

 

Now, will someone please explain why for future reference?

[LeeG]

The I/O Linc Relay always turns On with a Direct On regardless of Momentary mode. The I/O Linc is designed on the assumption it is being controlled from another Insteon device which requires the use of a Scene. Only HA products going through a PLM can send Direct commands.

[hart2hart]

Lee. Thanks. Does SH documentation simply hint but never outright say this? There was lots of mentions about scenes so in OP I considered it might be the case. Just would expect clear... CAN ONLY BE CONTROLLED FROM SCENE in their docs. But hell I could have just missed it. Next time I'll have two cups of coffee before a morning "simple" project. Just for kicks are there other devices that have same requirement ?

[andyf0]

I know with KeypadLincs if you want to light up a button you have to use a scene.

[LeeG]

hart2hart

 

I don't think the User Guide says Scenes must be used. From Smarthome perspective all of their products communicate with Scenes. None of the Insteon devices can send Direct commands so I assume they do not see the need to explain what happens that way. Really same with other devices as well. The Keypadlinc Secondary buttons cannot be managed with Direct commands but this is not discussed in the Keypadlinc User Guide.

[hart2hart]

Thanks. Understood this in general but with many device "felt" link with PLM was a default scene. Clearly wrong way to think.