Jgdavis14 Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I've got a DB On-Off module (2635-222) running a small fan that seems to turn it's self on for no reason. This morning it was running when I got up. I opened my MobiLinc (which indicated that it was off despite it's running) and turned it off. When I got to my computer I checked the ISY log and saw the command that it had been turned off via the WEB but there was no indication that it had ever been turned on. Any ideas???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Do you know if it comes back On shortly after being turned Off or at random times? Some inductive devices like a fan motor. Can produce a voltage spike when turned Off. Sometimes this would turn a relay type Insteon module back On. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larryllix Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 @Brian H; I have seen this happen frequently with the X10 modules with current sensing in them. Does this happen with Insteon units too? It's a pain-in-the-neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teken Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I've got a DB On-Off module (2635-222) running a small fan that seems to turn it's self on for no reason. This morning it was running when I got up. I opened my MobiLinc (which indicated that it was off despite it's running) and turned it off. When I got to my computer I checked the ISY log and saw the command that it had been turned off via the WEB but there was no indication that it had ever been turned on. Any ideas???? Can you clarify the last part unless its a typo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Yes we where constantly seeing that in the X10 forums. The newer designed CFL Friendly ones where much better. The 2456S3 ApplianceLincs did have Local Control Sensing. The hardware V1.? defaulted to Local Control Sensing ON and it was controlled by adding an X10 Primary Address. The hardware 4.? ones defaulted to Local Control Sensing Off and could be set with the set button enabled or disabled. The hardware V4.15 and 4.20 didn't follow the Insteon power up to the same state it was in with a power restoration. They always powered up off even if they where on at power loss. The sales page for the 2635-222 says it has Local Control {I think they mean the set button can toggle it} and no Load Sensing. It also does not do any X10. Like the older 2456S3's could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techman Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I would try a factory reset on the module. There is no load sensing on the dual band on/off modules so it shouldn't be triggered by the attached load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I believe there was a report of a large inductive spike triggering them On even with no Local Control Load Sensing. An added snubber had to be added directly on the load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgdavis14 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 Taken: You referring to my WEB comment? I used MobiLinc to turn it off. The Log shows it as WEB for a user. I used to have the same issue of lights coming back on right after turning them off with some old X10 pieces but no longer have any X10. This is the first time I've had a bad command go through on insteon that I'm aware of. No, I haven't noticed it coming on shortly after being turned off. We did have some storms a few days ago with lightening but nothing last night. I'll try the factory reset on it and see if that has any bearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian H Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Factory reset is a good start. There have been cases of modules being shipped with test links or X10 addresses in them if it supported X10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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