rayg Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Can someone help me add my Insteon Themostat back to my 994. I have the latest firmware and have factory reset. I have tried all 3 linking methods and always get the Cannot Determine Insteon Engine message. Also, I have these old Insteon Signal Lincs in my house and I am not sure if they help of hinder. How can I verify these things are working? From what I can see you cannot link to them, This last attempt yielded slightly diffrent results. All other attempts had a unexpected Ack near the top. What is INST-TX-I1 ? Tue 03/03/2015 09:17:42 : Stop Insteon Device Linking Mode, Final processing to follow Tue 03/03/2015 09:17:42 : [LNK-END ] 02 65 06 : : Unexpected, ignored (65) Tue 03/03/2015 09:17:42 : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 20 49 4C 0F 0D 00 Tue 03/03/2015 09:17:43 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.49.4C 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Tue 03/03/2015 09:17:52 : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 20 49 4C 0F 0D 00 Tue 03/03/2015 09:17:52 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.49.4C 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Tue 03/03/2015 09:18:01 : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 20 49 4C 0F 0D 00 Tue 03/03/2015 09:18:01 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.49.4C 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Tue 03/03/2015 09:18:05 : [20 49 4C 0 ] Failed to add device, reason 3 Tue 03/03/2015 09:18:05 : [All ] Writing 0 bytes to devices Tue 03/03/2015 09:18:05 : [All ] Writing 0 bytes to devices Thanks ...Ray
Xathros Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 Looks to me like the PLM cannot reach the tstat. Need to mode the stat closer to a dual band device, the PLM or maybe use a plug in dual band device like a lamplinc or range extender in the vacinity of the tstat. -Xathros
LeeG Posted March 3, 2015 Posted March 3, 2015 The old SignaLinc with the black external antenna will not cause a problem as I had them in use for years. Finally removed them because they were in the way. However, they will not help with any RF only device as the old SignaLinc operates on a different RF frequency.
rayg Posted March 4, 2015 Author Posted March 4, 2015 Its funny that the tstat responds to the Linking request immediately when I press Set yet it cannot complete communications. I tried again at 2 other locations and still no INST-SRX which is what I assume I need to see (not that I know much about this protocol). Wed 03/04/2015 09:20:54 : Start Insteon Device Linking Mode Wed 03/04/2015 09:20:54 : [LNK-BGN ] 02 64 01 00 06 Wed 03/04/2015 09:21:40 : [LNK-STAT ] 02 53 M(01) gid=00 20.49.4C 050A 0D Wed 03/04/2015 09:21:40 : [20.49.4C 00] Linked device type=05.0A fw=0D Wed 03/04/2015 09:21:40 : [20 49 4C 0 ] Added to list of devices to link to ISY Wed 03/04/2015 09:21:41 : [LNK-BGN ] 02 64 01 00 06 Wed 03/04/2015 09:22:09 : Stop Insteon Device Linking Mode, Final processing to follow Wed 03/04/2015 09:22:09 : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 20 49 4C 0F 0D 00 Wed 03/04/2015 09:22:09 : [LNK-END ] 02 65 06 Wed 03/04/2015 09:22:09 : [std MH ] Unexpected Ack imCmd=65 cmd1= 0x4C Wed 03/04/2015 09:22:09 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.49.4C 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Wed 03/04/2015 09:22:14 : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 20 49 4C 0F 0D 00 Wed 03/04/2015 09:22:14 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.49.4C 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Wed 03/04/2015 09:22:22 : [iNST-TX-I1 ] 02 62 20 49 4C 0F 0D 00 Wed 03/04/2015 09:22:22 : [iNST-ACK ] 02 62 20.49.4C 0F 0D 00 06 (00) Wed 03/04/2015 09:22:26 : [20 49 4C 0 ] Failed to add device, reason 3 Wed 03/04/2015 09:22:27 : [All ] Writing 0 bytes to devices Wed 03/04/2015 09:22:27 : [All ] Writing 0 bytes to devices Any other suggestions? Is this a bad thing? Unexpected Ack imCmd=65 cmd1= 0x4C
LeeG Posted March 4, 2015 Posted March 4, 2015 The "Unexpected Ack" message is for a PLM message. It is not an error and has nothing to do with the the thermostat. The device type information (05 0A) indicates it is a 2441ZTH which is the battery powered thermostat. This device goes to sleep so it will not respond to commands unless manually put into linking mode before starting add process.
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