Insteon motion sensor for bath fan vs toggle and timer.

[chachdog]

Just trying to figure out which would be a better way to go. Motion is good when it works. when the batteries are good etc. if i have a standalone toggle insteon switch could I just somehow program it so if it is turned on, it turns off in 10 minutes? 

 

If the fan is needed longer the switch can be turned on again for the next 10 min. 

 

Just trying to rule out having to rely on motion. 

 

Thx.

[smokegrub]

I program my bathroom fans in just the manner you describe. When I toggle one on it runs for 15 minutes and turns off. I do the same with the lights in my garage. That has eliminated my forgetfulness in leaving them on.

[stusviews]

Each time an On is sent, the timer restarts. (In my case, there's a fan scene)

If
    Control 'Fan' is switched On
 
Then
        Wait  X minutes
        Set Scene 'Fan' Off
 
Else
   - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

[chachdog]

sounds good to me.

 

This the one to use? 

 

http://www.smarthome.com/togglelinc-relay-insteon-2466sw-remote-control-on-off-switch-non-dimming-white.html

[chachdog]

Each time an On is sent, the timer restarts. (In my case, there's a fan scene)

 

If

    Control 'Fan' is switched On

 

Then

        Wait  X minutes

        Set Scene 'Fan' Off

 

Else

   - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

 

 

what does the fan scene look like? Just the scene with the toggle switch added to it as.... a confused by this part..a responder? 

[chachdog]

I program my bathroom fans in just the manner you describe. When I toggle one on it runs for 15 minutes and turns off. I do the same with the lights in my garage. That has eliminated my forgetfulness in leaving them on.

 

Do you do your bathroom lights too? I use to have one of those motion light switches. got caught in the dark a few times. kind of steering away from the concept. 

[stusviews]

I rarely issue a direct command to a device. Also, I wanted to keep the program simple. This is the program:

 

If
     Control 'IN / Devices / IN Front BathFan' is switched On
     Or Control 'IN / Devices / IN Front Hall KPL Light / IN Front HallC BathFan1' is switched On
     Or Control 'IN / Devices / IN Front Hall KPL Light / IN Front HallD BathFan2' is switched On
 
Then
        Wait  X minutes
        Set Scene 'IN / Scenes / IN Front BathFan' Off
 
Else
   - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

[Scottmichaelj]

I do mine a bit differently. I have mine on a LONG timer but also when switched off they switch back on for another 10 mins then off again. Just sayin...for those times you could use a bit longer for lets say, guests.

[chachdog]

I do mine a bit differently. I have mine on a LONG timer but also when switched off they switch back on for another 10 mins then off again. Just sayin...for those times you could use a bit longer for lets say, guests.

 

stink sensor million dollar idea 

[smokegrub]

I rarely issue a direct command to a device. Also, I wanted to keep the program simple. This is the program:

 

If

     Control 'IN / Devices / IN Front BathFan' is switched On

     Or Control 'IN / Devices / IN Front Hall KPL Light / IN Front HallC BathFan1' is switched On

     Or Control 'IN / Devices / IN Front Hall KPL Light / IN Front HallD BathFan2' is switched On

 

Then

        Wait  X minutes

        Set Scene 'IN / Scenes / IN Front BathFan' Off

 

Else

   - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')

Why do you do this? I have always sent commands directly to devices w/o problem.

 

Thanks.

[smokegrub]

Do you do your bathroom lights too? I use to have one of those motion light switches. got caught in the dark a few times. kind of steering away from the concept. 

I just use a standard switch for bathroom lights. I have yet to find a reason to automate those lights.

 

By the way, if you are building out an Insteon system, I would choose a dualband switch. That will strengthen the communications. When I started with Insteon I bought a bunch of ToggleLincs not being aware of the dualband distinction.

[chachdog]

I just use a standard switch for bathroom lights. I have yet to find a reason to automate those lights.

 

I had a situation where people leave lights on in the bathroom. 

 

"By the way, if you are building out an Insteon system, I would choose a dualband switch. That will strengthen the communications. When I started with Insteon I bought a bunch of ToggleLincs not being aware of the dualband distinction."

 

Didn't notice if that switch wasn't dual band. thanks for the tip. 

[larryllix]

I have always had the lights on in the bathroom as a problem since starting HA back in the 70s.

 

When your house has automatic lights everywhere except a few (eg. in the bathroom), guests, especially, can't be expected to remember what lights they turned On and to turn off again.

I remember overhearing one of my teenage kids telling his guest, "If you didn't turn it on, then don't turn it off"

 

Polterguests are the worst for that.

[G W]

I just use a standard switch for bathroom lights. I have yet to find a reason to automate those lights.

 

By the way, if you are building out an Insteon system, I would choose a dualband switch. That will strengthen the communications. When I started with Insteon I bought a bunch of ToggleLincs not being aware of the dualband distinction.

I have kids that don't understand there is an off position on light switches.

[diggler]

I have a micro module that controls the fan only and a kpl that controls the fan light. If fan light is on for more than 2min fan turns on, when light is switched off fan will run for additional 15min. Kpl A 5min run time kpl B 15min run time

 

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