stusviews Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 ... does this imply that you must choose between either the HUB or the ISY but you can not utilize both ? Here's an interesting integration of Echo and the ISY that I'll be trying: http://forum.smartho..._ID=17353#93089 Link to comment
LeeG Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 If restarting the UI did not resolve, exit admin console and unplug ISY for 30 seconds. What does not work appears to be the nth try to bring up Start Linking without it completing. Link to comment
LeeG Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Gee "does this imply that you must choose between either the HUB or the ISY but you can not utilize both ?" If you are an expert with Insteon and the use of multiple Controllers (ISY and Hub) it can be done BUT it takes lots of work, sustained over the life of using two Controllers at the same time. It is not a simple environment and requires expert knowledge. Link to comment
Techman Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Techman, I've tried adding devices and using "Auto Discover" and get a "Failed" message again. Not sure how to get the model of the PLM? There could be a conflict if a device is currently linked to the Hub. Try doing a factory reset on a problem device then try to link it to the ISY. I don't think you can have two controllers controlling a device as the left hand wouldn't know what the right hand is doing. I would suggest removing the Hub and using the ISY. Link to comment
Michel Kohanim Posted November 12, 2015 Share Posted November 12, 2015 Hi jrclark1978, Please don't hesitate to contact our tech support in case you still haven't been able to resolve the issue. All, Thanks so very much for all your help. With kind regards, Michel Link to comment
Gee Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 Tedious, very tedious. OK, can I use the HUB (since it is all ready money spent) as a range extender ? Specifically, the open/close sensor is the furthest away from everything else. The ISY sees the HUB, the devices see the HUB, the open/close sensor sorta sees the HUB. If I clear the HUB of all devices and go solely with the ISY, can I still have the HUB plugged in at a central location (empty with no devices added to the HUB) and utilize it as a system wide range extender ? I'm assuming the interaction between devices via RF is "passive" (ie that the HUB will forward Insteon RF signals to the power line regardless of it's being program aware of that device) ? Link to comment
stusviews Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 All dual-band device are range extenders. Link to comment
LeeG Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Gee Is the Hub in a plastic or metal case? Link to comment
stusviews Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 All my Hubs came encased in plastic. Link to comment
Gee Posted November 13, 2015 Author Share Posted November 13, 2015 All dual-band device are range extenders. So I can use da HUB - as a range extender even without any devices linked to da HUB, and it will function as a range extender in my system, and IT WILL NOT SCREW UP THE ISY and by FUNCTION, I mean that it will extend the range of all insteon devices hooked up in my home and linked to the ISY, but NOT LINKED TO da HUB ? YES ? or NO ? Link to comment
stusviews Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 A dual-band device repeats Insteon signals. It doesn't care what sends the signal even if it's in use for a different purpose. A LampLinc, for example, repeats the signal whether or not it's controlling a lamp. Link to comment
LeeG Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 " I mean that it will extend the range of all insteon devices hooked up in my home" That is not answerable and likely not true. Nothing SmartLabs produces will receive "all insteon devices" installed in a typical installation. Opposite 120v leg, not in RF range (from your post - the open/close sensor sorta sees the HUB), various reasons "all" insteon devices would not be processed by HUB. Link to comment
stusviews Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 A Range Extender like ALL dual-band devices is not a signal booster. It simply repeats any Insteon RF or power line signal that it hears (first caveat). The "problem" device must be within range of the repeated signal (second caveat). Link to comment
Gee Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 Let me try this again. Will the HUB "function" the same as a $39.95 Range Extender Item #: 2992-222 AND not screw-up the ISY if no devices are linked to the HUB ? Yes ? or No ? Link to comment
stusviews Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 If by "the same" you mean identical, then probably not. Some dual-band devices seem to have a better range than others. I'm not aware of the specifics for each device, but all dual-band devices, including the Hub, function as a range extender. No dual-band device will screw up the ISY if nothing is linked to it (the dual-band device) unless the device is defective. Link to comment
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