biffom Posted August 3, 2017 Posted August 3, 2017 Are your themostat devices included in any Insteon scenes? They are not included in any scenes.
hbskisurf Posted September 25, 2017 Posted September 25, 2017 I have a plug-in module to detect an ALL-ON event. However, as stated above the ISY doesn't see a status change after an ALL-ON. Is this the correct program to run to monitor? All On Status Query - [iD 01D0][Parent 0091] If From 3:00:00AM For 24 hours Then Repeat Every 30 seconds Set 'Plug-In Module / All On Monitor' Query Else - No Actions - (To add one, press 'Action')
rig doctor Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 My first All On event. I have about 40 Insteon devices and a few Z Wave. Z Wave door locks. Have had my system running perfectly for over three years. I replaced my first PLM about four months ago and have had no problems after installing. Last night when coming in from a job at 1.30 in the morning my geofence program unlocked the door and turned on my yard lights and entry light like it should. and as soon as i walked into the kitchen, which does have an insteon motion sensor, every light in the house came on and woke up the entire house. I'm not a very popular person at the moment. LOL Nothing shows up in the log that would explain. Can anyone tell me if a motion sensor could possibly cause an All On event like this? I'm lost!
Techman Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 My first All On event. I have about 40 Insteon devices and a few Z Wave. Z Wave door locks. Have had my system running perfectly for over three years. I replaced my first PLM about four months ago and have had no problems after installing. Last night when coming in from a job at 1.30 in the morning my geofence program unlocked the door and turned on my yard lights and entry light like it should. and as soon as i walked into the kitchen, which does have an insteon motion sensor, every light in the house came on and woke up the entire house. I'm not a very popular person at the moment. LOL Nothing shows up in the log that would explain. Can anyone tell me if a motion sensor could possibly cause an All On event like this? I'm lost! There's a direct correlation to the all on events and the Insteon motion sensors. If your sensor is battery powered then you might want to check and/or replace the batteries. When the battery voltage is low the sensor will send out multiple on signals, rather than the low battery signal, which can contribute to an all on situation. Take a look at this article http://wiki.universal-devices.com/index.php?title=INSTEON_Random_All_On_Events
rig doctor Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 Thank you very much! I do have two motion sensors in my kitchen and one of the batteries is low. I will remedy this problem and hopefully this will not occur again. Again thanks for your response!
BigMoose1 Posted October 4, 2017 Posted October 4, 2017 Rig Doctor Not sure if the following will be helpful or not. I have been changing the batteries in the 11 motion detectors I have every 6 months. I have been measuring the voltage of the removed batteries each time I change them. I also track the number of times each detector changes status. What I have found is there is no correlation with the number of status changes or the age of the battery with the voltage of the battery being removed. I have two detectors that see only 25 status changes in that period and others that may have 2500 status changes. The removed batteries have voltages around 8.1 to 8.3 volts. I am not sure at what voltage I should be getting a low battery notification but so far I have never received one. One time prior to my 6 month cycles I experienced a situation where the motion dectector was giving false signals and after that event I went to a 6 month cycle on the battery changes. Have been doing that for the past 2 years.
Brian H Posted October 5, 2017 Posted October 5, 2017 Rig Doctor Not sure if the following will be helpful or not. I have been changing the batteries in the 11 motion detectors I have every 6 months. I have been measuring the voltage of the removed batteries each time I change them. I also track the number of times each detector changes status. What I have found is there is no correlation with the number of status changes or the age of the battery with the voltage of the battery being removed. I have two detectors that see only 25 status changes in that period and others that may have 2500 status changes. The removed batteries have voltages around 8.1 to 8.3 volts. I am not sure at what voltage I should be getting a low battery notification but so far I have never received one. One time prior to my 6 month cycles I experienced a situation where the motion dectector was giving false signals and after that event I went to a 6 month cycle on the battery changes. Have been doing that for the past 2 years. Are you measuring the voltage with a load on the batteries? A high impedance meter will read high. If it is the only load on the battery in question. You should have a load resistor on it or the meter has a battery test function. That has a load built in.
larryllix Posted October 5, 2017 Posted October 5, 2017 The only load that matters for the voltage measurement is the load of the device it is used in. In an MS application where the battery can last for years, the load is insignificant and not likely to affect the voltage reading, connected or not. Many batteries are not what they previously were. The so-called copper top batteries have become very poor quality and the original better quality units now labelled as their premium battery for sales at much higher prices. By marking my batteries with dates, when installed, I have learned to avoid Duracell batteries now. The cheapest discount store no-name brand batteries outlast the Duracell ones every time. I have 12 Insteon MSes and some never send low Batt signals, some do. I record them in ISY. Some work flawlessly down to 7.5 volts and some send low batt signals or flash their LEDs with motion, or malfunction at 8.7 volts. None of my 12 MSes have ever sent multiple On signals with low batteries, AFAIC. I believe that belief was concocted in error, from the multiple LED flashes seen and reported. I count ON signals received, also.
Brian H Posted October 5, 2017 Posted October 5, 2017 The actual load is best. I have used a resistor load for extra batteries in storage. Using the batteries specification sheet for typical loads. It is a general idea of its shape. A high impedance meter and no load will not give an accurate reading. A low reading with no load and I would imagine the battery is really shot.
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