Culvdave Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 I have a togglelinc controlling back deck floods and side yard floods controlled by a switchlinc. What I would like is to have the option of controlling the side yard floods with the togglelinc. Thinking something like toggle up once for back deck floods, toggle up twice to turn on side yard floods also. Is it possible to make a program to do that? Thanks in advance, these forums have been a lifesaver in getting my system going and debugged.
stusviews Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 If Control 'toggleinc' is switched Fast On Then Set ...
Culvdave Posted March 30, 2016 Author Posted March 30, 2016 Thanks for that, the togglelinc is non dimming so doesn't have fast on but I replaced it with dimming switchlinc and works fine.
stusviews Posted March 30, 2016 Posted March 30, 2016 Is the load dimmable. If not then a dimmer is not appropriate. Even at 100%, the TRIACs in a dimmer clip the waveform which may reduce the life of the load, the dimmer or both.
Culvdave Posted March 31, 2016 Author Posted March 31, 2016 Will a non dimmable halogen bulb still dim? Otherwise they must be dimmable as they seem to work fine.
Techman Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 Will a non dimmable halogen bulb still dim? Otherwise they must be dimmable as they seem to work fine. Yes, halogen and incandescent bulbs work with the Insteon dimmer modules. Non dimmable CFL and LED bulbs should not be used with dimmers.
oberkc Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 Thanks for that, the togglelinc is non dimming so doesn't have fast on but I replaced it with dimming switchlinc and works fine. Togglelincs DO have a fast on command, including relay versions.
stusviews Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 Will a non dimmable halogen bulb still dim? Otherwise they must be dimmable as they seem to work fine. Halogen bulbs are incandescent bulbs with iodine or bromine added.
larryllix Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) Thanks for that, the togglelinc is non dimming so doesn't have fast on but I replaced it with dimming switchlinc and works fine. IIRC there was a discussion about non-dimming SwitchLinc devices and they still produce Fast On commands, They just can't dim and may not respond to them...... but ISY will. Edited March 31, 2016 by larryllix
larryllix Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 Yes, halogen and incandescent bulbs work with the Insteon dimmer modules. Non dimmable CFL and LED bulbs should not be used with dimmers. Unless the halogen is one of these 12v bulbs (MR-16) that goes into a can with a ballast that can't be dimmed.
Culvdave Posted March 31, 2016 Author Posted March 31, 2016 These halogen bulbs aren't low voltage, it's interesting you say the non dimming togglelinc has a Fast On, the option is there on the bottom of the ISY screen but it didn't work with the program either through ISY or manually double tapping the toggle but when I put a dimming switchlinc in it's place it worked fine.
oberkc Posted March 31, 2016 Posted March 31, 2016 I have found that the togglelincs are not the easiest on which to initiate the fast on. The two presses must be done pretty quickly. Perhaps that was the problem? For what it is worth, one could also create a programmatic solution to this problem that would allow greater time between the first press and second.
larryllix Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 These halogen bulbs aren't low voltage, it's interesting you say the non dimming togglelinc has a Fast On, the option is there on the bottom of the ISY screen but it didn't work with the program either through ISY or manually double tapping the toggle but when I put a dimming switchlinc in it's place it worked fine. You have to write a program to receive the Fast On command from the SwitchLinc. There would be no point in sending it a Fast On because it only has one speed and no dimming facilities. SwitchLincs can produce six different commands.
stusviews Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 SwitchLincs can produce six different commands. Actually nine, even if the device is a relay, but three are tricky to accomplish manually.
larryllix Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 Actually nine, even if the device is a relay, but three are tricky to accomplish manually. LOL. You counting the "triple tap" trick in there too?
stusviews Posted April 1, 2016 Posted April 1, 2016 No. In addition to Dim and Bright, there's Fade Up and Fade Down (hold button or paddle) and Fade Stop (release after holding). The difficult part is holding long enough to be different than a tap without initiating On or Off. That task is actually easier with a ToggleLinc
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